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SAKIJOE 04-02-2006 02:24 AM

Pp Ss Issue?
 
HI I JUST BOUGHT A PP PISTOL AT A GUN SHOW. AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT FALLS IN THE SERIAL NUMBER RANGE THAT WAS ISSUED TO THE SS?? COULD THAT BE TRUE? THE SERIAL NUMBER IS ON THE SLIDE, FRAME AND THE MAGAZINE. ON THE SPINE.
THE SERIAL NUMBER OF THE PISTOL IS 204838 P
IT IS A COMMERCIAL MADE PISTOL. EAGLE OVER N....
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHEN IT WAS MADE AND COULD IT HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO THE SS?????
BOB

Marvin 04-02-2006 08:09 AM

When someone is trying to sell a firearm, stories can get on the "wild" side. When buying a firearm, buy the weapon, not the story unless there is definite proof! The dealer wants to sell the item.

With that said, I checked my verified SS, RSHA - Reich Security Main Office, issued Walthers. Most of these were the PPK, but a few PPs were issued. The closest S/N listed is 204111 P, issued to Karl Dettmann, a Kriminalangestelter (acting detective), issued Nov 12 1943.

Could it have been issued to an SS person, possibly, but without poof it is just a story. The SS, from what I have read, did not buy in large "blocks" to issue. Officers of the SS probably had to buy their own handguns like the miltary officers, so any S/N could show up. I am not sure of the time of manufacture, but it would be in the early 1940s

SAKIJOE 04-02-2006 09:28 PM

PP SS ISSUE
 
HI TAC, I USE CAP LETTERS I LOST PART OF MY RIGHT FINGERS IN NAM. IN 1968.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH SCOTT GAHIMER. I HOPE THAT HE WILL TELL ME ABOUT MY PP PISTOL. I SHOULD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE HISTORY ON IT.
AGAIN THANKS!!!
REGARDS
BOB

Revolvr 04-02-2006 10:06 PM

Also a lot of P38/PP/PPK experts here:

http://www.p38forum.com/

SAKIJOE 04-02-2006 10:48 PM

SS PP
 
HI TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE LUGER FORUM. I HOPE ALL OF YOU CAN BE OF HELP TO ME ABOUT MY PP PISTOL.
REGARDS
BOB

Lyn Islaub 04-03-2006 12:50 AM

Bob,
John P. Pearson Has contributed several articles to the AUTOMAG, over the last 18 months, outlining his research into serial number ranges of Walther PPKs that were issued to the SS and I would imagine that his data base extends to PPs of the same period. John can be contacted at P.O. Box 2524 Toluca, Calif 91610. You will find him to be a real gentleman that will be more than willing to help you research your pistol.
Lyn

Edward Tinker 04-03-2006 12:52 AM

Re: PP SS ISSUE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SAKIJOE
HI TAC, I USE CAP LETTERS I LOST PART OF MY RIGHT FINGERS IN NAM. IN 1968.
REGARDS
BOB

Bob, we understand, you can YELL as much as you want. Thanks for serving our country.

Ed

SAKIJOE 04-03-2006 01:55 AM

TO LYN
 
HI LYN THANK YOU FOR THE NAME TO SEND THE SERIAL NUMBER TO FOR THE SS PP PISTOL.........
REGARDS
BOB

SAKIJOE 04-03-2006 11:45 AM

HI TAC
 
HI THATS OK

Rod WMG 04-03-2006 03:13 PM

Bob, I echo what Ed said about thanking you for your service. It, and that of all our vets and active personnel, is deeply appreciated.

Rod WMG 04-03-2006 03:13 PM

Bob, I echo what Ed said about thanking you for your service. It, and that of all our vets and active personnel, is deeply appreciated.

SAKIJOE 04-03-2006 06:51 PM

TO ALL THE LUGERFORUM MEMBERS...........
MY HAT GOES OF TO ANY SOLDIER, AIRMAN, OR SAILOR. THAT SERVED THEIR COUNTRY. IF YOU WERE A COOK OR A MUD POUNDER. THEY ALL DID THEIR DUTY.

DUTY, HONOUR, COUNTRY
BOB

SAKIJOE 04-04-2006 11:20 PM

SS PP PISTOL
 
TO THE MEMBERS
TWO EXPERTS TOLD ME THAT THIS IS NOT A STORY. DIETER H. MARSCHALL FROM SCHIFFERSTADT FROM GERMANY STATED ON THE P38 AND PP-PPK DISCUSSION FORUM. AND JOHN PEARSON TALKED TO ME ON THE PHONE TODAY AND REASSURED ME THAT FOR A FACT THIS IS A REAL SS ISSUE PISTOL.
NOW I KNOW FOR SURE ABOUT THIS PISTOL. THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP.....
REGARDS
BOB

the gunman 04-05-2006 09:48 AM

Quite a find Bob. Always good when you find this kind of information.

Marvin 04-05-2006 01:25 PM

Bob,

Glad to hear that you got the straight information from Deiter. If he says it is correct, it is correct. I looked in Deiter's book on the SS PPs and did not see your particular pistol noted, but I am glad you found the answer. Congratulations on the find!


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