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Vlim 02-28-2006 06:59 PM

7.63 Mauser ammo question
 
Hi,

Have the opportunity to buy a small lot of 7.63 x 25 ammo.

The boxes read:
Imported and distributed by Interarms Alexandria, Virginia
Made in USSR / packaged in Singapore

Anyone know this stuff. Suitable for Mauser C/96 use?
The boxes state that the ammo is optimized for C/96 use, but as the stuff originates from the good old USSR, I'd really like to know if anyone has seen it before.

After all, Russian quality control did produce the Lada....

Ron Smith 02-28-2006 10:53 PM

Gerben, Most Russian rifle ammo is pretty decent stuff. "Wolf" ammo, etc.

Have never had any of this or anything to shoot it in. If it is for the Tokerov. It may be on the warmish side.

Ron

RichSr 02-28-2006 11:17 PM

Gerben,

Is it in a green plastic box of 50 with a black label ? I bought a few hundred rounds of that about 20 years ago and it seems to be ok for the Mauser. I put a box through a 1930 broomhandle a few weeks ago with a couple of duds and a few that took two strikes to fire. However I don't recall having that problem with any other boxes.

the gunman 03-01-2006 09:53 AM

Hi Gerbin had about 400 rounds of this stuff . traded off 200 of them shot about 80 rounds of the stuff. Had no problems with it. It came along with a red nine I just recently bought. I missed the 30 mauser but the guy through in the .30 ammo.

Vlim 03-01-2006 11:03 AM

Guys,

Thanks for the info. Will pick the stuff up next weekend, if all goes well.

Vlim 03-07-2006 07:29 AM

Well,

I picked up the ammo (4 boxes) and it's indeed dark green and black plastic boxes with a black label wrapped around it. Back of the label mentions that it is suitable for the C/96 and copies, amongst others.

Ammo appears to have 1948 - 1953 production dates. Will test some of it on wednesday. We'll see what fails first, the ammo, the pistol or my forehead :D

Vlim 03-09-2006 05:21 AM

Succes!

The C/96 functioned flawlessly, as did the ammo. Thanks to Tom Heller, who came up with a functional bolt and a Dutch shooter who sold me the ammo at a very friendly price.

Shooting it singlehanded, like I do with the luger, is a disaster, but the stock made all the difference. The sound is very distinctive, I really like it, and the way it gently pops out the spent cases.

Not bad for a 92-year-old pistol with 50-year old ammo.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/c96_stock_1.jpg

the gunman 03-09-2006 09:59 AM

Hi gerbin I to find them a real joy to shoot.

Lugerdoc 03-09-2006 10:42 AM

GvV, The Russian ammo is undoubtedly 7.62 Tok ammo and probably 20% too hot for the C96. I use it for a proof load when rebuilding these beast. If your broom, especially the bolt stop, is in good shape, it can probalby tolerate this hot stuff, but I don't recommend it as a steady diet. TH

Vlim 03-09-2006 12:02 PM

Hi Tom,

Any experience with the newly made S&B 7.62 x 25 ammo?

broomhandle 03-09-2006 10:57 PM

Hi Sir,

PLEASE install a set of NEW springs in the C-96.
Wolf springs or Brownells has them for about $15 USD

The C-96 is rough on springs and after 50-60 years, they do loose there spring. I have four of them and ALL were better &more reliable shooters with the new spring installed. Lightly grease the locking block in the lock works, the pistol will cycle a faster with less wear.

The green box ammo is Tokorov ammo.
Most of it is loaded over the 1440 fps that is max. for the C-96. & it is CORROSIVE primed. CLEAN the pistol WELL!

Pull them down and reload with a known powder load.

I reload about 1000-1100 fps .I don't wish to snap a locking block or bolt stop. I just load light enough to cycle the action.

Note please: check the bolt stop for cracks & also check the frame in that area for cracks or mushroomed metal.

Be well & safe,
broomhandle

Vlim 03-10-2006 05:43 AM

Hi,

I suspected as much and I do a complete teardown and cleaning after shooting. (note that the pistol will not be used intensively).

The bolt stop is in good condition and the rear area of the frame is in pretty good condition. No thorough wear.

The spring hint is a good one. I'll get a fresh set just to be on the safe side.

broomhandle 03-10-2006 10:55 AM

Hi Gerbin,

I hope you enjoy your pistol.It looks very nice.

If you do a search on yahoo.You will find a C-96 messages/forum site with lots of good pictures and infomation.
I have been luck to meet 4 members of the group in person.

Be well,
broom
:cheers:

Lugerdoc 03-11-2006 08:42 AM

Gerben, Sorry no experience with the S&B. I usually shoot Fiocchi. TH

Navy 03-11-2006 09:55 AM

I strongly recommend that anyone who is contemplating shooting a c96 purchase a newly made bolt stop. When one of the old ones fails, it can mean a trip to the hospital or to the morgue.

Tom A.

Vlim 03-11-2006 09:22 PM

Yes,

The overall design of the C/96 is interesting, to say the least. Some very small bits of metal keep the whole thing from falling apart and harming the shooter. The fact that it's virtually impossible to load the pistol's magazine without chambering a round is also somewhat discomforting.

All I can say is that shooting a C/96 is not for the fainthearted (or those without a good life insurance :) )

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...ding_small.jpg

broomhandle 03-12-2006 12:30 AM

Hello Gerben,

Do you have stripper clips for it?

They are like the Mauser rifle strippers.
They hold ten rounds of ammo.
Fit into the guide on top of the frame just like a rifle. Much faster and safer to load.

Be well,
broomhandle

Keller 03-12-2006 02:50 PM

Hi Gerben,

You can also use Steyr M1911 stripper clips. They will only take eight instead of ten cartridges - but they will fit equally well and might be easier to get hold of here in Europa.

Steve Richards 03-15-2006 09:24 PM

A great website is: http://www.northwest-denture.com/mauser1896/index.htm

It is not a discussion forum but has a vast amount of information including reloading charts.

Steve Richards

broomhandle 03-16-2006 01:21 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/C96_Forum/


Lots of good infomation and pictures

Be safe,
broom


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