.30 Luger question
 

Did any other manufacturer ever design and market a gun chambered in .30 Luger?

--Dwight

Dwight, I believe that Fabrique Nationale did or does a Browning High Power in .30 parabellum. It's got to be a great hand gun.

FN Browning HP
Bernadelli
Ruger
Sig 210
Walther P38
Colt 1911(I seem to remember about a very limited few, I am sure a Colt collector will chime in)

plus maybe a couple others that I can't recall.

I have a Browning HP, a Walther P38, a Ruger P89, and a Colt Commander in 30 Luger, I believe that Walther also made the P5 in 30 L. :thumbsup:

Most European makers of 9mmP pistols also offer them in .30 luger for the Italian market where civilian possession of 9mm pistols is prohibited. So you can probably add most large Berettas and other Italian makers to the list. TH

The Glisenti was originally chambered in 7.65 mm Parabvellum (30 Luger) before the advent of the 9 mm Glisenti cartridge.

The Polish Radom was chambered for the 7.65.

Ther are persistent rumors that a very very few Mauser C96 Broomhandles were so chambered.

Various submachine guns have been so chambered.

There are S&W M39 's in 7.65 mm, I'm not sure if factory issue or conversions.

I have a Ruger P89 in 7.65 mm, I suspect Hugh's Ruger P39 is really a P89.

(I have this problem all the time, fingers get ahead of the brain while typing.)

:banghead:I get all them "P's" confused! :confused:

Thanks, guys, for the info. It all makes a lot of sense, and I am familiar with a couple of the conversion kits.

The gist of my question, though, was more to discover if a pre-war (WWI, that is) manufacturer jumped on the bandwagon and devised a pistol to shoot what was, at that time, a very prominent cartridge. From the nature of the replys, maybe not.

Also, according to Ezell (p.470) the 1906 Glisenti was chambered for a 7.65x22 cartridge, but the shoulder was closer to the case mouth than the .30 Luger, and the powder charge was reduced.

--Dwight

Dwight, to follow up on the Glisinti and add to your informatinve post..it was manufactured in 9MM as well but at a very reduced charge. It is dangerous to fire a Glisinti with modern 9MM ammo. It's not built to stand it. Jerry Burney

P5 on gunbroker in 7.65mm Luger...

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=44127775

BTW folks... I had the disctinct pleasure of serving in the U.S. Army in Italy for almost 7 years. My Italian national friends explained to me that it is not 9mm that is a banned caliber, just the 9mm Parabellum or 9x19, because it was/is a standard Italian military issue cartridge... Hence was born the 9mmx21... that was created to fill this gap. A slightly more powerful cartridge, but it won't fit the mag well of a lot of 9mm P pistols. Some time ago (years) I examined a wartime P.08 that had been converted by a gunsmith to fire the 9x21 cartridge...

John S et al, You're right. I once owned a Colt 70 series in 9mm Steyr that was destine for the Italian market. I question whether FB ever produced any pre 1945 Radoms in 7.65P. I do have a Nazi proof barrel available @$75 that has been relined to .30 luger for anyone who is interested. I also have new Radom recoil spring assemblies available, for anyone who is having trouble with their old original. TH