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vikingthor 08-05-2005 08:20 PM

nickel luger
 
I have a p08 luger, coded 41 BYF, serial number #8359, and all numbers
match. It is nickel plated, with the nicest ivory grips, with eagles on
them. three mags and a orginal little box of ammo. trying to figure it's
worth.
Any ideas guys, I shot pic's but I want to do it again, doesn't show the
detail of the grips or the whole piece.
thanks
vikingthor

Edward Tinker 08-05-2005 08:41 PM

A nickle sells for less than a normal shooter. I sold one for $450 recently, so around there.

I doubt the grips are actually ivory, more than likely plastic ones from the 60's or 70's.

Can you send pics to me weimar_lugers@comcast.net

Welcome to the forum, I can move this to new collectors if you want. If it stays here in the trader section, it should have a price.

What are the mags and ammo?

Ed

vikingthor 08-05-2005 10:52 PM

grips
 
We tested the grips they are not plastic, they really are ivory.
I will take some better photo's and post them tommorrow Ed, We used a hot iron and you can barely tell, used the iron on a set of wood grips, and they started smoking.
sure not plastic.
thanks
steve

Dwight Gruber 08-06-2005 12:14 AM

If the grips really are ivory, and you really are determined to sell this combination, you would be well advised to pick up a regular pair of grips to put on the gun, and sell the grips by themselves, on ebay if no one here is interested in them. You might expect to get $150-$200 for them.

--Dwight

Hugh 08-06-2005 10:43 PM

vikingthor,

If you want to sell the grips, I'm interested!

vikingthor 08-08-2005 02:20 PM

41 byf nickel luger
 
I have better pictures of the pistol and grips, anyone interested send me and e-mail, elhaz@comcast.net
thanks
steve



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lugerholsterrepair 08-08-2005 07:43 PM

Steve, To test for ivory it is necessary to heat the grips enough to create smoke. The smoke should smell like burning hair if they are Ivory. To do this you can remove a grip and on the back and touch a needle heated to red hot. It will let off a little puff of smoke and do little or no damage if Ivory. A flat iron will not do the trick...Wood smokes at a different temperature than Ivory.Ivory also has a look and texture to it, linier cracks and a mellow yellow color. Look on the back of the grips, they should look different than the front and perhaps you can see the texture and color. The front of these look awfully white and shiney, maybe bone..They also look to be Mexican manufacture from the carving. Jerry Burney

Dwight Gruber 08-08-2005 08:13 PM

Steve,

To elaborate a bit on Jerry's comment, the red-hot needle test on plastic grips will enter the material and smoke and smell like plastic. There is a composite ivory material, finely ground or powdered ivory suspended in a resin. If you try the test on this material you will get the smell of burning resin, different from both hair and plastic.

I agree that the surface of the grips look pretty shiny. The lack of a mellow yellow color may not be diagnostic, this color only comes with use. My own ivory grips were parchment white until I installed them on a Luger and started shooting it.

The grip backs would be interesting.

--Dwight

Hugh 08-08-2005 10:06 PM

Steve,

If you look very closely, you should be able to see "grain" or growth lines in real ivory.

John Sabato 08-09-2005 05:36 AM

I concur with Jerry (leatherholsterrepair) that the grips look mexican in origin to me... The fit of the grips to this Luger is not real close... So I would speculate that they were not specifically made and fitted for this particular Luger... but produced for sale.

Whether genuine Ivory or not, the poor fit will put off most buyers...

I also concur with Dwight, that your course of action to get the best price if you are interested in selling the items would be to put a better fitting pair of inexpensive grips on the gun and sell the grips and gun separately...

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