One To Watch...
 

None of these appear in my 11-12 Swiss luger and holster books..

The auction ad reads as :

" WWII Rare Luger Holster 1906/24 Swiss Canvas / Leather Rig "

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...538716117&rd=1

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._holster_1.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._holster_2.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._holster_3.jpg

Pete,

I'm really curious about that holster...........and I'm the rookie. I've only been looking at these for a few weeks and that holster looks like a home made job to me. The leather looks too new and the snaps look too new. Look at the clean edge around the top of the magazine. It looks like it was just cut. Canvas? Did they make those?

Am I wrong?

Pete, I know you know your Swiss stuff. What do you think?

Steve

Consider the source.......

Tom A.

Steve, If this were not made yesterday, say 1929, it would have some age patina as you have indicated it should. Holsters are like any other antique. If it looks brand new and is supposed to be 70 years old, it is automatically suspect.
Tom has said on many an occasion, the tuition to Luger U. is steep unless you ask questions, study the books and do your homework. Buy the books available in your specific collecting field. If it's Swiss....buy all you can find. It will save you money in the long run.
I don't buy(can't afford) Swiss so I don't have many books on them. But If I did, I would buy them to protect myself.
The seller carefully does not mention originality nor authenticity. He seems to skirt the subject rather artfully....If Pete has never seen one and Tom is doubtfull I would run like a rabbit! Good Luck, Jerry Burney

I think you can special order them. I have been thinking about one in paisley to go with my wifeâ??s purse.:p

My wife wants one in purple since she is a red hatter. Wlyon

If it states WW2, "most" buyers would expect an original ww2 item... :rolleyes:

Buyer Beware,

Ed

You guys made my day. I raced home from work so I could see what you wrote. I've been glued to this site and trying to read all that I can to gain more knowledge on lugers. I have learned that I'll need to live another 50 years to learn just the basics. I was really worried that I might have made a bad call on this holster. I didn't think I did but I was still worried about it. I didn't want my "first" opinion to flop on me. If I was wrong, I would have had to change my posting name and start all over under a new name :)

Jerry, I bought one book and I'll get more. Your advise is good. In fact, it is so good, if I ever buy anything, I'll buy it from you guys. You know, like the holster you're repairing for me right now :)

Hey, maybe you can fill some of those special orders that the guys want.
You could start a whole new line :)

Ok, here's another related question. Are the grips on that gun pictured in the same auction, after market? I remember reading something on the site about grips with a border on them, but I don't recall what that was now.

Thanks,

Steve

Steve, some of the knowledge you read here is from repetition, hearing the same questions, some is by hard-earned mistakes (we all make them), and then those many books, help us remember all the "stuff" we forgot!

:)

ed

Steve,

The grips are proper for a Swiss M1906 W+F Bern luger (aka M1906/24 or just M1924).

There are some more recent repros like the Bern grips...made in Italy but the border is not as wide.

The finish on the luger in the holster photo is quite not right...

If you switch to the Swiss luger section, looks for Bill Lyon's photos of his nice M1906/24 Bern luger. You can see Bern grips close up.

Regards,

Pete...:typing:

Pete,

Thanks..........I'll look at that in a second.

Steve, Don't make promises you can't keep, some of these guys are robbers!
I'll have to dig through the giant pile of holsters and see if you have one in there.
Which book do you have?
Jerry Burney

I got "Luger Tips" by Michael Reese. I looked real hard at the book by Kenyon, but the guy wanted $60.00. The book is good, but I decided to shop around on that one since I won't have anytime to read it real soon. I told the guy that wanted to read it, not shoot it :) It did look like a really good book. Hey, can you change that holster into a "lefty" so I can use it when I get it back :) Seriously, have you guys ever seen any left handed holsters or did they just keep lefties in the bunkers somewhere?

That $60 is cheap tuition to help you get acquainted with most of the major variations and help zero in on your collecting interest. And even though it is more than 35 years old, you will go back to it time after time when you see or read about another variation. It is the best basic primer for the beginner. For really authoritive recent info, you will need to "graduate" to Jan Still's books. I probably have 50 or more Luger books in 6 different languages and I check them all every now and then.

Ron,

You are right, I'll pick it up next time I see it. I looked it over pretty good and it did look to be an excellent resource. I'll also look into the other ones you suggest.

Pete,

I couldn't find that posting on Bills gun. Which thread is it.

Steve

3rd. posting in the Swiss Luger section...

Here is a link to Bob and Brad Simpson's web site...lots of great Swiss luger photos one can study there...

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=1_13

Pete,

I love it when you put the links in the post. It makes it sooooooooo much easier. Good moderator, facilitator and just a good helper.

Thanks!

Steve

Pete,

After I went to that site, I'm convinced you guys are sucking me into an awful thing:) That's the kind of thing that will make a guy quite his job, rob banks, get a divorce and maybe even start gamblin'. You guys bring the "devil" out in me :) Oh, those are sweet guns! I need a beer!

Steve