1920 DWM Luger
 

Hi,
my neighbour offered me this luger that was previously his fathers.

It's a 1920 DWM with all matching numbers (592 if I remember correctly). two magazines with out numbers and a holster with tools inside( what's up with this 28? it is not the serial of this weapon, any chance it doesn't belong to this gun?).
The inside of the bore shows signs of wear, and very very little pecks of rust (weapon was last used in 1944)

I'm not quite sure how to price this weapon and I want to offer my neigbour a fair price. so what is your advice?

Vincent

don't have any other pictures at the moment, for which I'm sorry

Hello Vincent ,
Welcome , you have a mag from the german navy WWI probabely with the ring bottom and the holster is for the dutch navy luger from 1928 and on the brass the ship-number
With other pics we'll see better.........

Will try to arrange some other picks as soon as possible.
Two more questions,
Could the other magazine be Dutch as well? since it is not marked.
And do the tools belong to the holster? the tools are not marked as well.

What are the markings on the right side of the receiver? A 1920 commercial should have nothing, os sometimes the word "Germany". Look forward to more pictures.

Well , look on this link about the mag :
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...threadid=12104

For the holster , yes the tools could be not marked but belong to this dutch holster
Regards. .Pat

Vincent,
Please send an e-mail to me at rwood1@elp.rr.com
I would like to discuss the gun and holster and perhaps purchase the holster if you are interested in assistance with acquiring the outfit from your neighbor.
Ron

Thanks for all the comments so far, will try to send additional pictures as soon as possible.

As for the proof stamps, they look most similar to the stamps found on this site under: proof 3, 31 (the reworked police and army lugers, 1920)
When I post new pictures, I will include pictures of all stamps.

Vincent

Wahoo. That's a nice Dutch navy holster.

Does the DWM have the word 'rust' and an arrow at the safety lever?

:) no, it says "gesichert", would have been nice though to have been offered a dutch luger.

I still wonder how on earth it got mated with a Dutch navy holster :)

Vincent,

The other magazine could only be Dutch if the bottom looks like this, and then if it is, you will need to sell me the magazine...just kidding of course...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/peteskol9..jpg

:) before I can sell I have to buy first ;)

Well,

I'd certainly be interested in holster #28, as I have a Dutch luger with pistol number 28....

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/m1911.jpg

Gerben,
Looks like we both have our eye on the holster! Can't help mentioning that your army Luger would be insulted by being in a navy holster!:D

Ron,

Shhh. Don't spoil the fun :D

Wow, he has the holster for your gun? How odd is that?

Not odd at all. It isn't the holster for Gerben's gun, it just happens to have the same number. Gerben's gun is an infantry weapon and the holster is for a navy weapon. Ya gotta read the previous posts carefully!;)

Yep,

Ron is right, the pistol is a land dwellers piece of kit, the holster is a water dwellers piece of kit. The gun is numbered as #28 of the staff of the 11th infantry regiment. The holster was that of gun #28 on one of the Dutch navy vessels.

All in all, it would make a nice pair :)

"What are the markings on the right side of the receiver? A 1920 commercial should have nothing, os sometimes the word "Germany". Look forward to more pictures."

That's because it's not a commercial. The 1920 is the Reichswehr re-date (so-called 'property mark') that allowed the gun to be assembled under the Treaty Of Versailles and used by the police and limited military. The gun was probably put together from several parts guns and is almost certainly of Imperial origin. I have one which is why I know this, as I am definitely not a Luger authority. Mine also has the #31 proofs and 1920 over the chamber. Most were re-rust blued after assembly and are very carefully assembled, tight pistols in excellent service condition even though they are 'Frankenlugers'. I hope they become more collectible someday, but they're great bargains now if you can find one. The problem is, it's very hard to tell one from a recently put-together gun. You have to be able to recognize period finishes and excellent fitting. Mine has a cannon of the correct serial number but wrong suffix to the frame, and force-matched small parts. I would expect some mis-matches on the subject pistol once more is known about it. My frame number is 4084h, which puts it in WWI production in 1916, 17 or 18.