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MarkC 02-10-2005 09:55 AM

Parts Gun?
 
What can you guys tell me about this shooter?

Certainly the barrel has been replaced. The only markings are on the trigger guard. All small parts marked 11 including the hold open and firing pin with the side plate 11 overstamped 44. The grips are plastic but fit well.

I paid $350.00 for it several years ago but it shoots great.

Mark

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...hooterpost.jpg

John Sabato 02-10-2005 10:57 AM

$350 was a GREAT price for this shooter...

but if you want more information Mark, you will need to post a couple closeups of the gun.

The Mauser toggle indicates that it was not military production, but it may have been a Police gun... or commercial.

The barrel may have been a custom order, or a commercial arsenal "rework" or just a gunsmith replacement....

Please add some closeups of both sides.

Are there ANY marks on the barrel?

MarkC 02-10-2005 02:22 PM

John,

There are no marks on the barrel at all. I figure a gunsmith replacement. Will check tonight about other markings.

The gun needed a new firing pin spring giude and mag when I bought her.

Mark

MarkC 02-10-2005 07:05 PM

Here are a few pictures of the markings on the left side. C/N on the left receiver but C/U on the toggle.

The number 141 above the lanyard loop. No other markings. On closer exam some of the small parts are restamped 11 without grinding out the old number.

So what are the parts from?

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/m.jpg

Lugerdoc 02-11-2005 08:27 AM

The Imperial acceptance forward of the serial on TD lever is standard Erfurt procedures. TH

Dwight Gruber 02-11-2005 09:58 AM

Mark,

The markings on the frame and frame parts indicate a WWI Erfurt. The crown/N on the receiver is the German nitro proof instituted in 1910. If it is sideways--"lazy"--it dates between 1910 and about 1914; if it is upright, it is post-WWI. The toggle is Mauser banner commercial dating from the late 30s to 1942; crown/U is the Mauser Oberndorf house commercial proof.

--Dwight

MarkC 02-11-2005 10:56 AM

Dwight and Tom,

Thanks guys! The C/N proof is sideways. So it appears to be a rebarrelled Eurfurt Luger with a post WWI Mauser toggle!

It shoots great, but still don't know why someone when through the trouble of renumbering all the mismatched parts.

Sometimes the oddest things show up at the local gun shows!

Mark

Dwight Gruber 02-11-2005 09:17 PM

Mark,

I guess I was insufficiently specific in my description. The lazy c/N is a Commercial proof. Your Luger is a combination of an Erfurt frame, a 1906 Commercial receiver (slight possibility of it being a 1908 Commercial receiver), and Mauser commercial toggle train.

--Dwight


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