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Ron Smith 01-20-2005 11:48 AM

RARE Swiss variation on AA
 
Hey Pete, Don't pass this one up. I think, if my research is correct, this was presented to the Crown Prince of Upsydaisya. And only $1250.




http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=6396414




Good luck on your bid! Ron:rolleyes:

Ron Wood 01-20-2005 12:04 PM

I would love to know who did these Lugers, because this is not the lone example with this type of toggle marking. I have its sibling, but mine has also been converted to a grip safety model. The conversion was strictly functional however, with no cosmetic consideration since there was no attempt to relocate the "GESICHERT" marking to the lower position. So when the GESICHERT is visible, it is actually ready to fire! The work was well done, probably by a gunsmith (maybe Swiss?) and not a Bubba's basement job.

I think Thor posted a picture some time ago of another Luger with the toggle marked with a "Swiss" cross of the same type and location.

By the way, I think that was the Crown Prince of LOWER Upsydaisya. Mine with the added grip safety would have come from Upper Upsydaisa

Ron Smith 01-20-2005 12:20 PM

Hi Ron,
So this actually a, more or less, hand done variation? I just assumed " bubba" had made a concerted effort to boost a junk Luger.
Ya learn something new everyday.

Thanks, Ronhttp://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/pool2_copy1.gif

Ron Wood 01-20-2005 01:51 PM

Ron,
I was not aware that Bubba worked in a barrel. The only places of business that I knew of were his basement and the back of a pickup truck. Unfortunately, the truck is subject to frequent breakdowns, but Bubba applies the same level of skill and safety to its repair as he does to the modification of collectable Lugers.

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/bubba.jpg

Pete Ebbink 01-20-2005 10:37 PM

Geeze, Ron...what would I do without such good luger friends always keeping a Swiss eye out for me...:p

I am beginning to think the Swiss cross on old German lugers are nothing more than the Swiss version of British proof marks...nothing more...certainly not worth the $ 9500 for the recent Swiss "Navy" sale on one of the web sites :

http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/swissnavy.htm

I think H. Jones made this conclusion in his book in the 1960's, as well...cautioning such "Swiss" varieties should command no more money than a piece without the added Swiss cross...

I am planning a trip to CH early this summer as my work load eases...maybe I will be lucky to find a legit Swiss Navy or Arty...

Regards,

Pete...:typing:

Ron Smith 01-20-2005 11:00 PM

Ron,
Now that boys Mama and Daddy had to have been related. What a Maroon!! That's dumb, getting dumber.



Pete,
The discription of that pistol says it's a 6" barrel? Sure looks like it's 8" to me. However, it is a beautiful pistol.
If you were to find one or the other or both. How would you get them back? Or would you have to kill me if you told me?

Ron

Pete Ebbink 01-20-2005 11:06 PM

Hi Ron S.,

That Swiss Navy looks like it just came out of the bluing tank...IMO...

If I find a nice luger or two in CH, I would have a CH dealer handle the exportation out of CH for me and then have Bob/Brad Simpson handle the importation into the USA for me...

The luger price savings in CH would probably be eaten up with these exportation/importation costs...bring up the price equal to prices we end up paying here in the USA...but at least I can fill my suit cases full of luger holsters and other luger accessories...

p.s. Maybe pick-up truck boy was an only child and the gene pool ended then and there...

Regards,

Pete...:typing:

Ron Smith 01-21-2005 08:53 AM

Pete,
I agree about the appearance of finish. I meant that the lines of the variation, are beautiful. No doubt that this particular pistol, considering the source, is a redo. "Fool that I am!" :D

Ron

Edward Tinker 01-21-2005 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron Wood
I was not aware that Bubba worked in a barrel.
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/bubba.jpg

Ron, I am confused, why is there a picture of me fixin' my truk?:D :roflmao: :D

Ron Wood 01-21-2005 03:11 PM

I was hoping you would respond so that you could give me instructions on how to arc weld a gas tank.:eek:

Russ 01-21-2005 04:36 PM

Ron
The tank has to be completely full!!:cool: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Russ

tudorbug 01-21-2005 04:53 PM

of water!!

David


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