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Thor 01-10-2005 11:55 AM

Strange Chamber Marking
 
This is on Ron Smiths Commerical DWM Shooter. I have not seen this chamber marking before. Has anyone else seen it or knows where it was marked like this? Thanks
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/1917NChamber.JPG

John Sabato 01-10-2005 12:02 PM

I haven't seen this before either Thor... but it is obvious that the chamber was RE-"dated"... because the digits are too close to barrel... they should appear more where the "N" is instead of forward where they are...

and they don't even look like DWM markings... they look pantographed instead of stamped.

Thor 01-10-2005 12:09 PM

I certainly agree John, just a curiosity!

Ron Smith 01-10-2005 04:21 PM

Ted and John, I bought this upper from Tom Heller. He did'nt say anything one way or the other about it. Maybe he knows something.

Karl 01-10-2005 07:54 PM

There is a crescent-shaped highlight at the left edge of the receiver, adjacent to the ejection port opening, that suggests the top of the receiver has been ground down. The numerals don't look right: the "1" numerals should have serifs at the bottom and the trailing "tail" of the "9" should terminate in a small circle (like the classic "red 9").

Ron, is the cannon matching? KFS

Ron Smith 01-10-2005 10:06 PM

Hello Karl,
All I have is the upper half. It was basically just a parts gun. That I bought to swap out on one of my other Lugers to use as a shooter. I also replaced the toggle train. The original was a very poorly refinished DWM. I doubt that there is any way to determine the origin of the marking. As Ted says "just a curiosity". I believe it may be a 1906. At least the barrel is.

Ron


John Sabato 01-11-2005 10:57 AM

I agree Ron... it is just a curiosity... I was just speculating about it's possible origin...

Lugerdoc 01-11-2005 11:36 AM

Ron, This top was on a 1917 dated Navy framed mismatched shooter. In my opinion, this was someones attempt to make the mismatch barreled receiver match the 1917 Navy frame. One could also interpet it as a phony Nordsee inventory number, stamped in the wrong location. I SERIOUSLY doubt that the Germans has anything to do with this marking. TH

Ron Smith 01-11-2005 05:59 PM

Tom, Thanks. I like it anyway. Adds a bit of mystery to it. I know! It's a Navy prototype. Georg Luger himself, put that mark on it for the famous
navy test trials at Lake Minitonkawitz.

If anyone is interested in this famous piece of Luger History? I'll offer it to forum members only, for $75000. This week only.

It's a steal!!!! :)

Heinz 01-11-2005 08:46 PM

Does that include the prototype 1914 bottom and the rare two tone finish?

Lugerdoc 01-12-2005 08:36 AM

Ron, At least you have one variation that Tom A. doesn't have in his Navy collection. TH

Ron Smith 01-12-2005 10:20 AM

Heinz,

For $75000 I'll put diamonds in the grips. Of course shipping is extra.

Tom, That would probably be a first. Since Tom A is such a nice guy. I let him have it for $74,995. Including the diamonds. I'll even put Georg Lugers int'ls on it. ;)

Ron

Heinz 01-12-2005 07:13 PM

Ron

"I'll even put Georg Lugers int'ls on it. "

I think you meant to say, "I just noticed Georg Luger's initials are on it"


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