Navy markings ??
 

I know very little about authenticity of Navy marks. Do these look correct?


Thanks, Ron




http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/navy_marks.jpg

Ron,

I have never seen a serial number over stamp a proof mark on a Navy before. This is *most* unusual.

Tom A.

What might help or give a clue is to know what the current configuration of the pistol is. If it were, perhaps, a Weimar police the overstamp might make sense. Are there conflicting proofs on the right side of the pistol?

Addtional photos please...
 

Ron could you please attempt better closeups of all numbers on this gun... I have attempted to improve the photo you posted but not much success due ot a lack of focus...

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...navystamps.jpg

In addition to the fact that Tom Armstrong feels that this anomoly is most unusual...The numbers shown appear to be different sizes and I would like to see how they compare with the rest of the numbers on the gun.

thanks...

John,
Your enlargement suggests there were numbers on the frame rail beneath the present stampings. This gun is *very* troubling.

Tom A.

Another thing that just occured to me after staring at this photo is that the upper receiver extends past the front of the lower frame... this implies one of two things... and both are bad in my opinion...

ONE is internal damage at the front lug/takedown lever OR mismatched parts... :rolleyes:

and TWO is even worse to think about... that the front of the frame may have been shortened by grinding and re-numbered... Geez I hope not Ron! :(

More photos please!:confused:

Boys..........somtimes the obvious is overlooked....the serial number is supposed to be on the frame rail and not where it is.
Leo

OOOOPs.........put my foot in my mouth..had a 1914 in hand ,meant to state date. and not serial number............had a tough day

Sorry did'nt mean to fluster anyone.

It's a reworked pistol. Mismatched upper and lower. With 4" barrel. I was just curious to know if the Navy marks are genuine. There are some oddities about it that intrigue me. If the Navy markings are real. Then I may pursue it.

Hi John, This is a sellers photo, that was sent to me. I don't have the pistol.

Thanks,Ron

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976540857.htm

I had previously asked about this same piece back in 9-04 (thread titled "History Piece") in our HK luger section when it was on auction on Gun Broker...

No LF members had any opinons, then...

Looks like the top of the gun and the bottom of the gun where from different numbered guns...maybe that is why the "1917" on the left frame rail (as Leo mentioned) is not there...

Do not know why HK proofs would be there...???

Regards,

Pete...:typing: