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Pete Ebbink 12-02-2004 11:27 AM

Walther Toggle Action Pistol...
 
Bob Adams has a photo on his web site of a Walther toggle-action pistol :

http://www.adamsguns.com/walther.htm

Anyone know more about these...???

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Navy 12-02-2004 03:43 PM

That is one fugly gun....

Tom A.

Franz Lehr 12-02-2004 04:27 PM

Similar pistol (if not the same) was presented at http://www.hoba.cz/index.php?c=clane...and=view&id=98 dated 03/24/2002. Some interesting info in Czech language.
Franz

Pete Ebbink 12-02-2004 04:44 PM

Hi Franz,

Thanks for directing me to the other web site. Is there a chance you can do a translation and then inform us of the details in the article.

I would be curious to know how Walther got around any patent infringement problems with the luger folks at DWM/Mauser...

Here are the photos from the Czech web site :

p.s. Is that a double-stack magazine...???

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...ggle_gun_3.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...ggle_gun_2.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...ggle_gun_1.jpg

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

G.T. 12-02-2004 09:40 PM

Ugly as it may be.... they address some serious Luger issues.. one being the grip angle... we all love it (the P.08) as sport shooters, and collectors... but as a military weapon..you just want it to go off.. every time you pull the trigger!!! The enlarged trigger guard also address a weak point on the luger, as compared to the P.38 or even the latter Nambu's for that matter... (maybe that's the dog that jumped the fence?? :) ) But, it has some unmistakable Walther features.. and as a prototype example... it has to be valuable... but I also have to agree... it is butt ugly... not enough knowledge... too much leasure time! best to all...til...lat'r...GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

John Sabato 12-03-2004 10:08 AM

Hey Tacfoley... I thought that I vaguely remember there were one of these experimental walther toggle pistols in your wonderful official pattern room?

Of course I could be mistaken... it has been known to happen on occasion... :D

I have an 88 year old uncle, a vet of the Burma-China-India theater of world war 2, that used to tell me when I stood only up to his belt line (a LONG time ago) that he had a lot of faults... but making mistakes wasn't one of them <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />

Karl 12-03-2004 11:41 AM

The position of the trigger within the triggerguard suggests it is a double action. KFS

G.T. 12-03-2004 12:07 PM

Hi John! Your post made me think of some of my fathers favorite sayings. My favorite, was when he would look at me suspiciously and say, "The only two people I trust in this world, is me and you, and I ain't so sure about you!" It always brings a smile to my face, .. :) Another time his grandson, my son.. asked him if, as a kid, I was ever in much trouble??... He replied, "No not much .. but where ever trouble was, he wasn't too far away!" .... good memories all... best to all, til...lat'r...GT <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

John Sabato 12-03-2004 01:00 PM

Karl, Nice theory based on the similarity to other Walther designs, but this is a striker (firing pin) design... the pivoting trigger and external linkage shown above is strictly for release of the pre-cocked striker...

I see no provision for the cocking of the striker in a manner than could be termed as "double-action"...

besides, in s striker design... the firing pin would be resting on the primer if the gun were not already cocked, and waiting for the trigger pull to **** it...

NOT a good idea... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

IMHO, in this old engineer/gunsmith's eyes this is a single action semi-auto design.


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