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John Sabato 04-16-2002 04:57 PM

An rather unusual suffix letter...
 
This suffix letter doesn't match the examples in our technical information section...


It is from a piece being auctioned currently on Gunbroker (search for "rare" and you will find it.) The suffix letter on the lower frame under the barrel is identical...


Anyone care to comment on the seller's story about this suffix letter or perhaps have a good reference for this suffix example??


regards,


John Sabato




http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/unusualsuffix.jpg

Gilly 04-16-2002 05:27 PM

Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...
 
John are you talking about what looks like a NV in cursive? If so both my BW and S/42-36 have that mark on the frame just under the serial number.




Ron Wood 04-16-2002 05:28 PM

Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...
 
That is a lower case "r" in the "alte schrift" or old style german script.




Thor 04-16-2002 05:48 PM

Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...
 
"r" for rare! lol



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Frank 04-16-2002 06:56 PM

Re: An rather unusual suffix letter...
 
Look in Technical Section under suffix, then Suffix 2. Gortz sez it's a "w"




Ron Wood 04-17-2002 01:49 AM

Don't believe Gortz sez its a "w"
 
Not enough vertical strokes to make it a "w". Still think it is a "r" according to a very obscure reference I have in my files but can't reproduce to post.




Tom Heller 04-17-2002 07:31 AM

Re: Believe Gortz
 
This is definately a stylized W, and as far as I know, used only in 1938. Tom h




John Sabato 04-17-2002 10:04 AM

Thanks for all the responses!
 
It was a great thread, But in this case I think Frank may have found the answer...


I had only looked at the 'n' and 'r' as a possibility... I would never have guessed a 'w'


See the example circled in red taken from Suffix2 of our technical page on markings...


regards all,


John




http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/strange-w.jpg

Thor 04-17-2002 10:09 AM

Re: Thanks for all the responses!
 
Looks like a match to me! Thor



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Ron Wood 04-17-2002 11:07 AM

Looks good to me
 
Guess I will throw away my reference.




bill m 04-17-2002 03:21 PM

Were no 1938 "w" -- only 1937 (EOM)
 

John Sabato 04-17-2002 04:36 PM

Tom H & Bill this gun IS 1937 not 1938...
 
Here is the link...


http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=3659792


Perhaps Tom had a typo error on his post?


-John



http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=3659792

Gilly 04-18-2002 12:10 PM

Re: Were no 1938 "w" -- only 1937
 
What year(s) were the "w" guns? As I previusly stated I have a 36 and a 42 with that stamp. Being new to Lugers I am trying to learn. David




bill m 04-18-2002 03:21 PM

"W" blocks
 
Hi David,

Jan Still's book, "Third Reich Lugers" has a fairly accurate chart which will show you the different letter blocks. There is some overlap on some, but for the most part it is real good information. "W" blocks were found in the 1937 S/42, 1939 42, and byf 41 models. -- And the "W" block was also used in the Mauser Banner commercial and police models, but the military and Banner "W"'s are two seperate, distinct blocks.





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