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Zorba 06-23-2013 11:23 PM

Time to get serious...
 
Ok - unless someone tells me "bad idea", I'm going to do my best to grab this one:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=349429952

Its what I've been looking for... I think/hope!

alvin 06-24-2013 05:47 AM

Curiously, what attracts you on this particular instance?

DavidJayUden 06-24-2013 07:44 AM

They have already declined bids of $1650. So how much are you willing to pay over that price? Seems to me that it getting right up against top dollar on that one.
It does seem like an honest wartime Luger.
dju

Norme 06-24-2013 07:59 AM

Hi Zorba, Both gun and holster look legit to me, and I think you can comfortably go to $2,00.00.
Are you really a professional belly dancer?
Regards, Norm

alvin 06-24-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 235742)
It does seem like an honest wartime Luger.

Astonished.

In my imagination, German would not re-number that magazine to make it match. Why did German care that number, it shoots then it's OK, it's just a tool in its era.

Let's assume viewers ignore that magazine and bid accordingly, so let's put the magazine aside. Not a big deal as long as it's not counted. The right panel does not fit the gun well, most likely it's a replacement. Let's also assume it's German did it. The left panel fits well, but has a chip on upper corner. Let's assume that caused by battle usage. The safety lever was refinished, let's assume it's done by German field gunsmith...... the list could go on and on....

If the attractive point is nice bore, it might perform well, it has some value, but should be described accordingly.

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I don't have Mauser Luger. Am I wrong in the observation?

sheepherder 06-24-2013 08:42 AM

I would think that $1650 is high estimate for Luger + holster + magazines/tool....OK, maybe a couple hundred more... ;)

alvin 06-24-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino (Post 235746)
I would think that $1650 is high estimate for Luger + holster + magazines/tool....OK, maybe a couple hundred more... ;)

Why? Could you give an itemized estimation? I am also interested in this rig.

sheepherder 06-24-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin (Post 235747)
Why? Could you give an itemized estimation? I am also interested in this rig.

As you well know, I am not a collector...But WW II Luger, 42 or S/42 seem to be what entry level buyers like...WW II mystique maybe...And this looks in very good shape, to my untrained eye...$1400 is my top dollar for pistol itself; others may say holster is worth a couple hundred (or maybe not), and two mags worth a couple hundred also...

That would be my reasoning...But remember, I have no interest in holsters or extra magazines [needless extravagances], so I would not bid over $1400...But if you are buyer who likes 'rig', then upwards of maybe $1850 would not be out of order, in my mind...If it is what you have your heart set on...

Edit: Also no export stamp...Means nothing to new buyer, but may affect price if later sold to collector...

Edit2: I am looking at pic of toggles, and the hinges look either extremely dirty, or maybe evidence of... :confused:

He also has a "G" date for sale...

guns3545 06-24-2013 09:17 AM

I would suggest you ask for detailed pictures of the "matching" magazine.

Also insure that the tool is properly marked.

John

DavidJayUden 06-24-2013 10:33 AM

Agreed. On second look the matching mag. is suspect. Need to see closeups of that part and also the front frame nmubers. I'm not seeing a big problem with the grip panels or finish on the saftey lever and am assuming that it is a strawed part worn silver. But my suggestion that $1650 is top dollar stands.
dju

Zorba 06-24-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme (Post 235744)
Hi Zorba, Both gun and holster look legit to me, and I think you can comfortably go to $2,00.00.

This was what I was kinda thinking too - but I appreciate everyone's feedback. Sounds to me like it may have some minor issues (what wouldn't being this old?), but is probably pretty solid. I'm particularly interested because its a '36, the fact that its a "rig" is a nice bonus.
Quote:

Are you really a professional belly dancer?
Regards, Norm
Yes.

Ben M. 06-24-2013 11:33 AM

here. very informative web site.

http://www.doubleveil.net/index.htm

DavidJayUden 06-24-2013 12:02 PM

And just when I could swear that I've seen it all...
dju

lugerholsterrepair 06-24-2013 12:53 PM

Yes..Interesting to say the very least. I read the entire FAQ page. Is there any money in this? That was the only question I didn't see asked..

Patronen 06-24-2013 01:19 PM

The magazine looks to have been renumbered at some point.

Norme 06-24-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 235759)
Yes..Interesting to say the very least. I read the entire FAQ page. Is there any money in this? That was the only question I didn't see asked..

Enough to buy a $2,000.00 Luger, I guess. Now that I'm retired and have time on my hands, maybe it's something I can take up to make myself a few bucks?
Regards, Norm

Zorba 06-24-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 235759)
Yes..Interesting to say the very least. I read the entire FAQ page. Is there any money in this? That was the only question I didn't see asked..

There's a male Belly Dancer in LA who reputedly commands a $1K price for a standard 15-20 minute performance. I'm not that good, not that famous, and not in LA. Where I am, about $75-$100 is the going rate for a Belly Dancer of either gender - and not much demand.

My latest paying gig was $100/each for myself and another (female) dancer. I easily spend twice that per month on classes - so it won't pay for Lugers for sure!

Zorba 06-24-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme (Post 235764)
Enough to buy a $2,000.00 Luger, I guess. Now that I'm retired and have time on my hands, maybe it's something I can take up to make myself a few bucks?
Regards, Norm

Boulder has a fairly thriving dance community as I understand it. I can give you a referral to a good teacher if you like...

Zorba 06-24-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patronen (Post 235760)
The magazine looks to have been renumbered at some point.

Good to know - thanx! :cheers:

Norme 06-24-2013 04:13 PM

Hi Zorba, I'm having second thoughts. Whenever I reach a crossroads in my life, I ask myself, "what would John Wayne do?". I don't think he'd approve!
Best regards, Norm


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