Couldn't resist this one
 

Seemed like a bargain.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/956427891

Please tell us how it turns out. It does look like a bargain.

Hope this is not same item

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/956428008

It has the same number on the magazine

Wow really nice please share when it arives

Seller has another nice rig for a decent price

Different gun, different mag. Same seller. All three he has/had for sale are bargains.

Gunbroker states seller is no longer a registered user. Hope you weren't fleeced.

Hope you weren't fleeced.......

We'll see what happens.....I'm working on getting the envelope turned around.

Sorry this stinks!!!!!

Hopefully you can get the envelope delivery stopped

Seams one of the only ways to find or get a good deal on GB is when a Seller has little to no history but then there just seams to be a huge risk and it also seams to be getting worse

Just about the time when you have had no problems, and start to believe in folks, a damn crook will come along and wake you up to the realization that there are some thieving scumbags still out there. I've had a five month ordeal with some bozo in Texas that got his feelings hurt because I put a 10 day hold on his check before sending him the item. I hope you are able to recover your funds.

I have never been a fan of GB and look but don't touch.

What really irks me is that gunbugs is a great guy IMO ... I wish nothing but good karma for gunbugs.
Best outcome possibly GB, sending positive vibes your way.

I appreciate that. Now it's just a game of winning against a scammer. I've got to contact the P.O. in Florida and have them turn the envelope around. I hope I can get them to answer the phone. Good luck with that.

I hope it turns put good also.

I generally ship a couple of days after I get payment. Holding a check for 10-days is the norm.
It can irritate me when someone holds my check and I've known them for years :) But, I can't blame a person?

I couldn't help buy notice that GB's starting bids for the current set of Lugers is even higher than just a few months ago AND they aren't getting any bids on many of them.

I keep seeing the same Lugers listed again and again..... waiting for another

Spent an hour and a half calling the Port St. Lucie P.O. this morning. Of course they never answered the phone. I'll give it one more try Monday morning. I have about a 30 minute window between them being open and having to leave for work.

Didn't the same seller have all of those lugers listed here? I think the ads are still up. Shows him being a member since 2006. Those were nice guns, but I believe were priced high and that''s why they didn't sell here.

gunbugs - I hope you do OK

What raised my caution flag was " i accept zelle and usps money order" in the ad
i.e. cash in advance - as used by Nigerian Princes and the widows of their Oil Ministers

Doesn't Eric (Cirelaw) live there? Perhaps he can help?

I do gunbroker for parts and things, and a few times for guns from dealers big problem is people never want to leave feedback which is problematic even if it was a good deal.

If you used a USPS money order, then Postal Regs come into play. If it is a scam, then a visit by a Postal Inspector would be called for, and that would be good for you, right?

almost got me too
 

Gunbugs,

This SUCKS and I really hope it works out ok for you! I almost went for the one Kiwi posted a link to and was waiting on an answer to a question when it sold but I damn near just bought it. Stupid scammers... :mad:

Just think if these jackwagons were to apply all their brainpower to constructive uses, instead of figuring out ways to cheat and scam folks out of their money.

You know I agree there are some issues with GB, but I am 26 purchases in and have a problem.
I think part of it is because I am paranoid and download photos and then do google search on the photo. I also look up addresses and see if it makes sense.

Well. I'm probably almost at 1,000 transactions on GB. (Not everybody leaves feedback). This is the first time I've had a serious issue. I've sold over 100k in guns on GB this year. Partly my fault for not being more diligent. It's not going to scare me off. I've got a Simpson police on the way. (Bought on GB). I'll just be a little more careful in the future. In the big scheme of things, this too shall pass. I haven't spent much time being upset. Life is too short. Just move on to the next deal. If I'm ever in Port St Lucie, I might do a little poking around.

Here is a rundown of my related activities to add to this dogpile.

I've sold Erma parts on GB in close to 500 transactions. I accept PayPal, USPS money orders, and personal checks. The only problem ever encountered was a magazine I sent to Puerto Rico that was lost by USPS, with which I exclusively ship parts.

I've bought and sold several GB guns, also without a problem. Granted, they are shooters, not high end collectibles, so I'm generally not operating in an arena where big sums of money are involved--which may help explain the lack of trouble.

Several years ago, I caught a fresh GB listing for a Navy, committed to the asking price, and was gathering funds for the payment when my FFL dealer pointed out a problem with the "seller's" FFL copy, which had the holder's name and address doctored. That stopped the deal cold, of course, so no loss of money.

After doing a little digging for the heck of it, I found the same gun, same pics, listed on two other auction/listing sites. One of the listings was made by the actual owner and was legit, but he was asking more for it, which figures. I reported the scam listing on their sites. The scammer seemed to be located in Indianapolis or wherever, and I corresponded with the ATF's closest office and gave them the scoop. They are chronically understaffed/under-funded, so promised to do little or nothing, and that I wouldn't hear of any results thereafter. I posted the story here back then, but won't bother looking it up now.

Most of the guns I have were purchased from auction houses via Proxibid, which never presented any problems. No hangups, either, with deals made through the forum's WTS/WTB.

Ithaca....there is a whole lot of noise on the internet about PayPal holding accounts, not processing your funds, etc....have you had any problems recently doing business...?

Not to mention paypal is anti-gun. I personally don't do business with anyone who can't honor the 2nd.

I got asked some credit check questions this week on GB, even though I had not bought anything. They didn't ask for further ID, but I had to identify previous addresses I lived at and a big purchase I had made 12 years ago. Oddly, it's the same things that I had to do for my Social Security and Medicare on-line accounts.

So, it may be true that they are tightening up their security. I sure hope so.

Get your money back gunbugs?

Nope. Don't think I ever will. I've placed calls to the Postal Inspectors in Florida, and Alaska and never received a reply. I'm pretty sure no one in the Post Office is capable of answering a phone call. I'm not worried about it. I've got other "fish to fry". Me complaining about it won't make things any better. So I'll just carry on.

Very sorry to hear that. One can only hope that these kind of scum are in the minority. I guess it's "buyer beware" .

I'll freely admit I made a couple of stupid mistakes. Out of hundreds and hundreds of transactions, I'd never been scammed before. I let my guard down, and have learned a valuable lesson or two. Or three. Se La vie, Se La Guerre, Se La Merde.

Well...this pistol is back again. This time the seller is supposedly in St. Petersburg.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/967941614

He's also got another entire rig (holster, stock & trommel mag) for the same price.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/967941616

Wonder what he'd do if I 'Bought It Now' and said I'd be right over tomorrow to pick it up in person.

Always has to be some dirtbag that ruins it for the rest. I hope Karma is a beatch for this jerk.

Looks like he pulled the Listings

Agreed hopefully Karma catches up

UUgio2 A(37)
No longer a registered user
Seller's Items for Sale

Looks like these jokers have figured out how to hack into other seller's accounts. A strong password is advised.

Just noticed this question. Tom.

I've taken at least 300 payments for gun parts transacted via PayPal over at last 7 or 8 years. I'm aware of their stance/policy, so have never mentioned the word "gun" in any invoice, etc. Nary a hitch encountered, and although I haven't been listing for at least the last year or so--and cannot speak from a body of strictly recent experience--I was just paid via PayPal for an Erma firing pin and firing pin spring guide/ejector for an Ep-22 last week.

Several years ago I caught a fresh listing for a Navy on Armslist, I think it was. At a right dandy price, so I committed to buy and began correspondence. While I was busy siphoning off a bit of my IRA to pay for it, my FFL dealer informed me that there was something fishy about the FFL copy he'd been sent. The number didn't line up with the name, and the address was in a different state...fraudulent indeed. I found the same gun listed on at least two other classified/auction sites, and the owner of the listing with the most realistic asking price turned out to be the real owner of the gun. I told him about the other sites and listings, and gave all the info to the seller's most local ATF office, which basically promised to do nothing.

In light of this, a good rule of thumb might be to make sure a valid FFL is sent before you let go of funds for a gun. Transacting through FFLs does provide the benefit of ability to verify what's on the other end of a deal, and provides accountability.