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blockislander 03-09-2014 09:06 PM

P08 to p38 conversion?
 
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I just picked up this 1942 P08 holster and have some questions. I was told that it was converted to hold a P38 pistol. I read online that some holsters were converted late in the war. The stiching and craftsmanship looks excellent, maybe too good. The shortened mag pouch is of a darker color than the holster. There is a small cut in the top to make it close a little narrower. It is in nice shape as you will see from the photos. I would like to know if it is a genuine military conversion or done in some leather shop stateside.
Thanks,

blockislander 03-09-2014 09:18 PM

Here are more photos
 
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Here are more photos

blockislander 03-09-2014 09:24 PM

couple more
 
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Here are a few more

John Sabato 03-10-2014 08:12 AM

Lugerholsterrepair,... Jerry Burney, can restore you holster to P.08 configuration. His work will be well worth the investment.

blockislander 03-10-2014 08:42 AM

Thanks
 
Thanks Jerry.
I wonder when it was converted? The stitching looks really good.
Paul

Edward Tinker 03-10-2014 09:43 AM

I have seen post war ones converted, but not to often, as you point out the mag pouch is very much wider and if you convert back, you'll have extra holes....

lugerholsterrepair 03-10-2014 11:36 AM

I have seen a fair number of these over the years. One has to wonder about a plethora of things..were they done by the Germans? The stitching seems to indicate they were. That and it's a witch kitty to change a magazine pouch on a Luger holster. The whole holster has to come apart as the rear flange of the pouch is sandwiched in between the back panel and the interior panel. One of the only parts that are glued on a Luger holster. Not something you want to try at home as they say!
It's odd that they would go to that trouble..a P-38 mag WILL fit..eventually it will bulge the luger mag pouch out pretty good and be tight for sure. Then why wouldn't they remove the Luger tool pouch? AND..why continue the stitching past the end of the new pouch up to the body edge? Most German stitching would demand a stop at the edge of the top of the mag pouch and double back.
So it's somewhat of a mystery but it has been done professionally Might have been an East German conversion too?
Back to it ain't easy to do...I would hesitate to recommend changing it back to a Luger pouch. As Ed says there would be a line of holes exposed due to the smaller Luger pouch..then there is the expense. I appreciate what John has said but my advice would be to leave it as it is and if you need a good Luger holster find one.

blockislander 03-10-2014 03:24 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks Jerry,
This really looks like a professional repair as you suggested. I will keep it this way as it is part of history I'm sure. Let see if I get any other replies.
Paul

wlyon 03-10-2014 03:52 PM

Just another of the luger mysteries. We will never know why, where or when. Very professional anyway. Agree keep it like it is. Bill

George Anderson 03-10-2014 04:01 PM

I have two 1941 dated P08 holsters that were finished by the saddler as dual purpose holsters with a slant cut top on the mag pouch to accommodate a P38 magazine. The original guide holes at the top of the holster where the pouch is sewn were never used. I also had another years ago. Given the transition from P08 to P38 in the early 1940s it makes perfect sense to me.

lugerholsterrepair 03-10-2014 04:48 PM

George is correct of course..That was one question I had for Paul I couldn't get an answer to from the pics.
Has there EVER been a P08 pouch installed in this holster? Look inside the pouch..are there old holes alongside the interior edge? Where the old pouch was taken off?

blockislander 03-10-2014 05:18 PM

Here is the inside
 
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It has a pouch for the tool.

lugerholsterrepair 03-10-2014 06:12 PM

Has there EVER been a P08 MAGAZINE pouch installed in this holster? Look inside the MAGAZINE pouch..are there old holes alongside the interior edge of the MAGAZINE pouch?? Where the old MAGAZINE pouch was taken off? I thought we were discussing a MAGAZINE pouch?
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blockislander 03-10-2014 06:28 PM

No Holes
 
This mag pouch is original to the holster! There are no additional sticking holes inside. Absolutely positive.

blockislander 03-10-2014 06:30 PM

So is this a rare Holster P38 holster?

lugerholsterrepair 03-10-2014 07:35 PM

This mag pouch is original to the holster..Another piece of the puzzle..I guess you could call it rare. I have seen them on and off over the years. Rare to not common?


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