"New" Luger P08 from LKCI
 

I don't know much, as usual, so I'll just blunder on anyway. The Turkish company formerly known as Tisas (now CM?) that made the hi-power clone a few years back claim to be coming out with a Luger P08. The picture on the LKCI llc website looks like it might be a VOPO Luger or similar. They also show a photo of an Arty Luger.

Anyway, the website states availability perhaps in the fourth quarter of this year. I don't know whether these are new production or rebuilds, or ?

Does anyone have any more info on these? :confused: Bill

Link to images:

https://lkcillc.com/wp-content/uploa...L-08122022.pdf

G2

If they are clearly engraved as replicas.................no serial numbers, etc.....

Downloaded the catalog from the link. I don't think the photos shown are what they are actually going to make, or are even tool room samples. The "VOPO" P-08 photo appears to be an actual VOPO luger. The"Artiliary",(funny), appears to be an actual Artillery. So I would adopt a "wait and see" attitude. Not to mention they describe their side by side 12ga as an "over/under". The catalog does not inspire confidence.

Just got an email back from LKCI from an enquiry I made to them, and time has already slipped to 3rd quarter 2023. I will say; however, that I have one of their Hi-power clones, and it is a nice pistol- accurate, reliable, and looks good. BTW, I'm not affiliated with the company and have no financial interest in it.

If Tisas - or whatever they are named now - does for the Luger what they've done for the 1911 and Browning High Power, I'll buy one. I've owned three of their 1911 pistols (still own one) and the quality has been excellent. They also made a clone of the Browning HP called the BR9 "Regent" and it has a good reputation although I don't think they are sold here any longer.

Tisas now CM (maybe)
 

Glad you like the Tisas 1911s, Walker; I've read some good reviews on them, and the price is certainly right. I am fortunate to have gotten a Tisas BR9 SS nearly new from Gunbroker a couple of years ago. I did replace nearly all of the small internals with Browning parts (not necessary). That pistol has been great.

LKCI is still the importer for the Turkish company now perhaps known as CM. Their website still shows the BR9 pistols, so maybe we'll be able to get them again sometime. Bill

Bill, my first Tisas 1911A1 was bought 7 years ago this month. The picture below shows the first target I ever shot with it using a center hold. I later bought the 1911A2 which was a series 80 action type. I sold the A2 to finance another purchase and sold the A1 recently to a neighbor who wanted a 1911. The one I own now is the "US ARMY" model that I purchased as a "Blem" for $320 NIB. The "blem"? The slide and frame are slightly different colors. These pistols are well made and do not have a single machine mark inside or out. The quality is far better than it has any right to be for the price.

I also have the Girsan MCP35 clone of the Browning HP. It is also of excellent quality.

The Turks are making some fine handguns at great prices. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy a reproduction Luger made by Tisas. I'm betting they'll be done right and it wouldn't surprise me if the parts interchanged with original Lugers just as the 1911 and HP parts do with original guns. Walker

https://i.imgur.com/PfkS46B.jpg

LKCI, LTD.

5772 BEAR HOLLOW ROAD SE
NEWARK, OHIO 43055-9464

Interesting - I have never heard of them.
The website is kind of cryptic, but they do have a physical address.

It will be interesting to see what they can do with the lugers.

The lugers are called PO8 ($800) and PO8A ($900).

Lkci ltd
 

Is the company to contact in order to purchase the HP and Lugers? Do they accept C&R? Thanks,

FWIW, I bought a BR9 SS when they first came out. I've only put about 200 rounds through it, but I like it a lot. I always wanted a stainless HP, and bought one to add to my little collection.

If they are new manufacture, they won't be C&R guns.

Hehehe yeah i think the picks on the Catalog are more than likely "borowed" from the internet

With that said THANKS for letting everyone know I have a Tisas CZ75 and it's extremely well made. I have also had my hands on a few other Tisas products and all have been real nice

If the prices remain the same I would probably pick up one of each

I wonder how much this would impact the shooter grade Luger market if these come out at those prices and still high quality. Half of me says they’ll depress the shooter market by supply and demand, the other half tells me that mismatched but Genuine German made Lugers will become a a collectible category in their own right. Especially VOPO and Combloc capture guns that have already begun their own niche collectible market.

If it introduces new shooters and interest to Lugers it wil be worthwhile. If the quality is as good as the other products from the company I'll buy one.

G2

Also, will this possibly present a new source of parts- depending on their quality & interchangeability?

I see this as a possibly win-win scenario.

I would hope they don't have all the warnings/read the manual junk on them like Ruger's do.

Doubs,

Do you think there is any chance they will also manufacture a Luger in .45 Caliber?

Sieger

If they are good quality I’ll buy one.

The website (https://lkcillc.com/) has lots of interesting guns. The “revolver shotguns” caught my eye. Mechanism like a double action revolver.

Wow, I have no idea but if they did, I'd surely buy one. I'm sure the quality would be excellent.

Mauser almost did it. Quality was sufficient, but just like the originals, manufacturing costs were very high. IIRC, the selling price in the 70s was around $700, which seems great today, but was a helluva lot for any pistol back then. I remember seeing a couple of originals at a gun shop in the $350 range.

Houston guns made a splash for several years, but even reverse engineering a gun takes a lot of resources. Without a customer base to meet price points on a scale large enough to make a profit, they also faded away for this same reason.

Our buddy Eugene Golubstov has invested immense time and effort to make his facsimilie of the .45 1907 Luger, and what he charges is more than fair for what he's produced. We should note that after an initial rush to order them, I think enough to justify a couple or runs of 50, Lugers in the original variation he made are on sale for about 20% off ~ $4k.

Even with cheap foreign labor, I suspect any manufacture of new Lugers of any sort, of any quality, simply isn't particularly attractive to industry for, again, the same reasons of high cost to develop and make, and insufficient customer base.

Just my opinion but with CNC machinery and the ability to hold very tight tolerances, I think a new Luger could be made at an attractive price.

While certainly not as intricate as the Luger, Tisas is able to make an excellent 1911 and the importer can make a profit at $400 or less. I would think that a Luger could be made and sold for under $1,000.

Any new info on these?

If the company produces an exact reproduction of the P08 and LP08 Luger, why would they not be available as Curio and Relic firearms?

They should qualify.

Can anyone actually confirm that this is the Turkish company "Tisas" or is it possibly some other company?

Any new made firearm, other than muzzle loaders are not eligible for C and R status until they are at least 50 years old. It's just the way it is.

Woody

The LKCI website still only offers shotguns as being available
So no progress on the Luger f/s

I just have to keep this alive

Anyone hear anything new?

I sent an email to Classic Arms and they had not heard about it

I like the 5 inch barrel idea. I have a Mauser re-intro with a 5 inch barrel and I think it looks better than a 4 inch.
I have a Tisas "army" 1911, no complaints. It has a better trigger than my fancy Colt "competition" 1911 that is a candidate for a trigger job.

Good Day All,

I messaged LKCI on this
The response I recieved was that they are planning on 2nd Quarter of 2024 for a Release

I best make certain that I dont empty the piggybank :)