East German loading tool
 

Hello!

I`ve been buying East German magazines and grips and other stuff for a shooter. Especially the mags are very good.

Some time ago I bought a tool from Germany and I was told that it is DDR production. It is in vg condition and the "front side" is checkered. That is supposed to make it East German.
I haven`t seen a tool like this anywhere before. Are these rare or have I just been blind while hunting down the parts?

jussi

Hi,

The East German loading tools have a number of grooves running over the bottom of the lip.

Please post a photo of this 'checkering' you mention. Thanks.

Not the best quality scans, but they ought to do the trick:

This is a typical East-German configuration (ignore the stamp, have no clue what it is or who put it there. Looks imperial but that's quite improper for a post-1945 tool)

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/loading_vopo1.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/loading_vopo2.jpg

Jussi, At one time Sarco was selling DDR loading tool here in the USA for around $20 each, but they are now sold out, so these are becoming more difficult to find. No too much demand from collectors, but like the mags, they work well. TH

I'm waiting for an order from Sarco to arrive. Keep missing Lugerdoc's good deals on magazines, so I ordered a "Rare Code 2/1001" milled body magazine. Also ordered an "ORIGINAL FINNISH "SA" MARKED LUGER TAKE DOWN" tool.

WGD, Sorry but I've been sold out of the DDR made extruded mags for some time. I question the authenticity of Sarco's "SA" marked loading tools. You may want to post a photo of your, to get some feed back from our Scandinavian membership. TH

Thank you all!

I`ll try to get a picture of the tool for you soon.
If someone is looking for those 2/1001 mags, check this place:

http://www.egun.de/market/index.php

I have made some good deals there.

jussi

Trying to add a picture here...

No luck! The pic size is ok, but I don`t know how to attach it.
:(
Can you give me advice?

jussi

Well, finally!



http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/east1.jpg

Made it easier to look at:
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/east1.jpg

You're probably right. The texture on the loading tool has been reported to be associated with East-German production, but the accounts I read mentioned this texture on the back side of the tool, not on the front.

And I thought that mine is an original tool because it has a stamp that looks like an Erfurt inspection mark
Alf:banghead:

Alf,
I showed you mine. Now show me yours :D

jussi

Well, I consider East-German tools to be 'original tools', as they were made by a valid military P08 using nation for functionality.

Just like the postwar Mauser Parabellum loading tools, that came with the guns, these are originals in their own right as well.

My Sarco order arrived. The magazine seems very well made and heavy. Marked 2/1001 on the side, aluminum base marked 6849 with a 2 above. Should be a serviceable magazine until I can find a more correct magazine for my 41 byf.

The tool looks like it was made last week. ;) Don't have a digital camera so no pic. I have to find a magnifying glass. Looks like there is a faint SA in a box, and to the right of the SA there's a mark that looks like a large 7, with maybe some faint mark under the part of the 7 at the top going to the left.

:) Here it is, I hope it is clear enough.
Alf

Gentlemen, This loading tool was made at the Veb Ernst Thalmann Werk, at the Sauer/Haenel plant-1957/58. I suspect the marking you indicate might be an Erfurt is spurious. As Gerben says..it does not belong there on a post war tool.
Page 292 of Eugene Benders Luger Holsters & Accessories.
This is what reference books are for....

Jerry Burney

Thanks Jerry. At least now I know what I have and a bit more wiser:D
Alf

Alf, Difficult to tell from your photo, but the mark on your tool could be a DDR Crown/N, but why they would put a proof mark on a tool, is beyond me. TH

Texture
 

Hi Gerben and all, the texture on either the front or back is just a matter of random parts getting flipped over prior to the next operation... this is also true of pre 45 made tools as well, I think there was a conscious effort to have the radiused side up when the tool was formed, but occasionally they came through up-side down, and I'm sure after making a few hundred tools, the thrill was gone... Best to all, til....lat'r....GT