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Angus Magnus 12-09-2015 09:46 AM

Pebblegrain arty holster?
 
Whats the story with that type of holster in the for sale section?

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...125#post281125

JTD 12-09-2015 10:08 AM

It is an early (probably 1915? if dated) and very un-common variation in fantastic shape.

George Anderson 12-09-2015 10:23 AM

Made in Bavaria in 1915, they are frequently found with 1914 dated Erfurt Artilleries.

Angus Magnus 12-09-2015 10:42 AM

Very neat look. I don't think I've seen a picture of one before.
Was this some sort of efficiency or cost saving measure that didn't work as well as expected?

I have most of an Erfurt 1914 artillery. Has WW2 era arsenal rebuild markings on it.
Is it also rare?

Angus Magnus 12-09-2015 11:03 AM

https://goo.gl/photos/YJuehCQqVfuczN997
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ithacaartist 12-09-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus Magnus (Post 281144)
...I have most of an Erfurt 1914 artillery...Is it also rare?

Aaron, since all Erfurt Artys were made that year, I think not particularly rare. 'Most of" because of the ground-off stock lug? Very nice shape otherwise, and the adjustable front sight is a nice feature. I have a DWM without the lug...but I also bought from G.T. a chunk of rear frame with an intact lug that is destined to migrate to my gun some day.

sheepherder 12-09-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus Magnus (Post 281144)
Was this some sort of efficiency or cost saving measure that didn't work as well as expected?

When I was in Germany I made the typical Yank tourist mistake of ordering a 'hamburger'...And that is what I got. What I wanted was a 'beefburger', and there is a big difference. :rolleyes:

When I asked about this I was told that beef [cattle] were not as common as in America, so ham [from hogs] was more common. So jackets, purses, shoes, etc were more commonly made from pigskin than cowhide.

I would assume this also applied to holsters.

The Bundeswehr Luftwaffe flight jacket I brought back was pigskin as well. Dyed gray. :)

Angus Magnus 12-09-2015 11:59 AM

Actually "half of" would be more correct than "most of". The stock lug is present.

The lower half is all matching, including magazine. The upper half is also matching to itself. I guess someone at some point disassembled two guns and reassembled the wrong parts. Maybe part of that rearsenal-izing?

Angus Magnus 12-09-2015 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 281153)
When I was in Germany I made the typical Yank tourist mistake of ordering a 'hamburger'...And that is what I got. What I wanted was a 'beefburger', and there is a big difference. :rolleyes:

When I asked about this I was told that beef [cattle] were not as common as in America, so ham [from hogs] was more common. So jackets, purses, shoes, etc were more commonly made from pigskin than cowhide.

I would assume this also applied to holsters.

The Bundeswehr Luftwaffe flight jacket I brought back was pigskin as well. Dyed gray. :)

I would tend to agree with you, but if that was so, wouldn't there be more pigskin luger holsters than regular ones?

Last time I told my Belgian mother in law I was in the mood for a steak I didn't specify beef. Horse isn't bad, just not as good...

sheepherder 12-09-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus Magnus (Post 281155)
I would tend to agree with you, but if that was so, wouldn't there be more pigskin luger holsters than regular ones?

Last time I told my Belgian mother in law I was in the mood for a steak I didn't specify beef. Horse isn't bad, just not as good...

I think you nailed it; they're likely horsehide. Several of my USAF flight jackets are horsehide; it depends on the maker whether horse or steer. :D

George Anderson 12-09-2015 02:54 PM

The vast majority of all WWI & WWII German military leather goods were made with calf skin. Pig skin items are quite rare. In 1915 MARS in Berlin made a small number of pebble grain artillery holsters. The most common of these are pebble grain calf with damn few made of pig skin like the holster offered here for sale.

Norme 12-09-2015 03:39 PM

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Pebble grain calf was used for Navy holsters too. Here are a couple of mine.
Norm


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