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Guisan 08-12-2007 07:58 AM

Swiss 1900 DWM Luger with factory mismatched barrel ?
 
A collector/dealer in Switzerland just got this one in...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/07...8/DSC00034.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/07...8/DSC00045.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/07...8/DSC00037.jpg

Monday morning or Friday late production ?:D

Guisan.:)

drbuster 08-12-2007 10:03 AM

Very nice 1900. The extractor seems to be arsenal replaced. I guess this Luger was assembled on a Monday!

Pete Ebbink 08-12-2007 11:26 AM

Barrel SN and frame SN seem to be one off...from each other.

drbuster 08-12-2007 01:56 PM

Pete, that was the whole point! It shows that even in the early times of Luger production inspection goofs occurred.

Heinz 08-12-2007 02:03 PM

I do not think it shows that. I think it raises questions about the history of this piece. The marking instructions call for barrels and frames to be serial numbered after they are assembled. Which is why they have halos. SO we presume the worker stamped the first set of numbers, then took the four stamps and put them all back in the stamp tray, then pulled three correct numbers and one wrong for the last stamp? That is not a process that any one who has ever stamped serial numbers would follow. More likely whoever replaced the barrel got one stamp wrong. Looks like a difference in wear patterns between the fames and the reciever also. Another factory mistake?

Vlim 08-12-2007 04:28 PM

I agree that the swapping of the guns upper and frame seems to be the best explanation.

Imagine two guns with 3134 and 3135 being serviced, used or present at a single location. Parts got swapped, nobody noticed.

I seriously doubt this one started out as a production error.

Pete Ebbink 08-12-2007 04:50 PM

Doc,

If you would spend big bucks and sleep well with that one in your safes, you are a better man than me...I could not...

Dwight Gruber 08-12-2007 05:33 PM

Frank,

Any chance in finding out the number stamped on the bottom of the receiver lug?

Do you know if this gun is c/BUG proofed or Swiss Military?

--Dwight

drbuster 08-12-2007 10:32 PM

Pete, this piece I would never buy! Mistakes of production, marking, etc. are impossible to explain when it comes time to sell no matter what provenence you are told.

Guisan 08-13-2007 04:10 AM

Dwight this non-matching barrel is just an interesting observation and I don't want to dig too deep into it as we won't find the answer anyway. I noticed that the number style is similar so the same set of stamps may have been used and for the rest it's guessing what has happened.

Guisan. :)

Dwight Gruber 08-13-2007 05:02 AM

Frank,

Whether the number on the recoil lug matches the barrel or the frame will reveal something significant about the origins of the parts.

The proof mark question will determine whether or not it can be added to the Commercial database.

--Dwight

Guisan 08-13-2007 11:26 AM

Ok send him an email about it, may take a while but will post it when I get to know.

Guisan.;)


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