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lugerholsterrepair 04-15-2021 03:34 PM

Tom Armstrong Name taken in vain!
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/28425911720...m=284259117205

Edward Tinker 04-15-2021 04:24 PM

what an odd statement for an ebay seller....

Heinz 04-15-2021 09:47 PM

Ed, I think all who knew Tom appreciated his eye for quality. I have a Luger, Luger Holster, and a Sauer 38H that came from Tom. I guess I would mention that provenance here but, you are right, it is strange for Ebay.

lugerholsterrepair 04-15-2021 10:17 PM

Tom Armstrong wouldn't have let a Rottweiler chew on that paki goat hide. It would poison the poor dog. Tom Armstrong touching that thing would be like Superman touching kryptonite. He wouldn't get anywhere near it.

Heinz 04-15-2021 10:39 PM

Jerry, you are, of course, right.

George Anderson 04-16-2021 11:35 AM

This slug also drags Jerry's name into one of his bogus offerings.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Imperial-Ge...8AAOSwSNhgeIzi

Edward Tinker 04-16-2021 11:58 AM

who is this 'seller'?

Guess put him on my ignore for ebay....

lugerholsterrepair 04-16-2021 12:25 PM

Well, Whoever he is he's probably not a bad guy. He lists a lot of militaria. It's just these two holsters that stand out and the name dropping.

Norme 04-16-2021 12:34 PM

Hi Jerry,
In his description of the Navy holster the seller describes it as being made of horse leather, can this be true?
Norm

lugerholsterrepair 04-16-2021 01:09 PM

Norm, Not in my opinion. The Germans had a leather industry that employed primarily cow hide for military gear. Horse hide is much different in texture and thickness. Of the thousands of Luger holsters I have been able to observe NEVER have I seen one I thought might be made of horse. Of course horse hide was used in certain applications..most I am not all that familiar with but I suspect apparel. Certainly not luger holsters.

Too, horses in WW1 were not bred for hides. They were a valuable source of transportation. Moving of armies. Munitions, supplies. Sadly many numbers of them were killed in battles and artillery barrages.

There are quite a number of things wrong with this so called Imperial Navy holster. It could promote quite a discussion on it's own merits regardless of what it's made of.

m1903a3 04-16-2021 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme (Post 338293)
Hi Jerry,
In his description of the Navy holster the seller describes it as being made of horse leather, can this be true?
Norm

That's an excellent question Norm, one that never occurred to me.

But since you asked, I did a little Googling and think that the answer is in the range of maybe to probably. It turns out horsehide is the same weight and thickness as cowhide, but somewhat stiffer and shinier. It also turns out that it was once preferred for holsters because it let the natural oils surface, with some thinking that help keep rust at bay. It is also was commonly used in motorcycle jackets!!

Who would have thought?

Update: The original specification for the Army Air Force "Jacket, Flying, Type A-2" required "seal brown horsehide leather". Eventually they were also made from goatskin or cowhide.

Heinz 04-16-2021 03:40 PM

My email notification had George's original phrasing, I liked it better.

Horse hide was often used for cowboy boots here in the States. I know nothing about Germany and do not trust Google :-)

cirelaw 04-16-2021 04:08 PM

1 Attachment(s)
For Comparision, Weimar and Imperial~

Neil Young 04-16-2021 05:20 PM

I suspect that the seller is member of this forum, or at least he is very familiar with participants on the forums. If we found out who it is, we might be surprised. However, that is just a wild guess. I'm like Sgt Schultz--"I know nothing!".

cirelaw 04-16-2021 05:26 PM

Take The FIFTH!!!!!!

sheepherder 04-16-2021 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Young (Post 338300)
I suspect that the seller is member of this forum...

Do you suspect he owns a 'pawn shop' in Venice Florida??? :D

lugerholsterrepair 04-16-2021 06:59 PM

Bingo! I suspect.

cirelaw 04-16-2021 07:05 PM

No Pawn Shop, Only Paradice!


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