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3rdHerd 02-16-2010 12:38 PM

Navy Luger
 
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I need some information on it. I have had it for 25 years. I got it off my uncle who had it before me for a number of years. All numbers match. Has alliminum bottom not wood clip. It's a 7.65 milimeter. Barrel has no markings. Barrel length is 3 1/16 inches long. I have not taken it apart. I read an article in shotgun news February 15th that the Navy was short on lugers so they got commercial and put Navy markings on them. Would like any information you can provide me with as it seems you are experts and I am not. Thank you very much.

Ron Wood 02-16-2010 01:16 PM

Your Luger was originally a military gun. It is a 1906 First Issue Altered Navy Luger. It is unit marked to the Werft (shipyard) Wilhelmshaven. At some point in time, probably in the 1920s, the original barrel was removed and replaced with a 7.65 barrel.

Thor 02-16-2010 02:46 PM

Hugh Clark can fix that right grip!

3rdHerd 02-16-2010 02:57 PM

Thanks for the info Ron what kind of value do these things have?All parts match 83 on serial number.Would the original barrel have navy markings also?I collect Military that is why I picked it up from my uncle.It was always just a luger till I got on line and checked markings and then came across this site.So wanted to get more knowledge from those who know about them.

Ron Wood 02-16-2010 03:10 PM

The original barrel would be longer, 150mm or approximately 6-inches. It would have the navy crown/M marking and the serial number. I am not good at assessing value, I will let that to the guys that are more attuned to the market.

lugerholsterrepair 02-16-2010 03:33 PM

John, Interesting post...This used to be a pistol worth many thousands..when the barrel went AWOL it shed $$ like a dog shakes off water.
Still an interesting pistol and would be more interesting with a 9MM barrel.
Is Germany stamped on it anywhere?

the Navy was short on lugers so they got commercial and put Navy markings on them. As Ron says..this started out as an Imperial Navy. The .30 Luger is not a military cartridge but more of a Weimar time frame conversion. Perhaps sold into the USA in the 1920's. Hence my question about the GERMANY marking.

Hard to say what kind of market price you may get..Because of the conversion to .30 Luger and the original barrel missing it is pretty much a very interesting shooter. $800 would be about right except for the Navy sight, frame, markings & grip safety. Some depends on what the internals might look like when you take it apart. The right grip needs some TLC. It depends on how quick you want to sell. It will sell immediately at $1,000-1,200. Might take some time to squeeze $1500 out of it. Some collector might find it interesting enough to give more but the economy is a little rough. With the original barrel it might have been $5000-7000.

Jerry Burney

Ron Smith 02-16-2010 03:36 PM

The pistol itself hasn't much collector value. Maybe in the $1200 range due to the fact that it is a Navy Luger.

The rear sight alone has appreciable value to people looking for restoration parts. I've seen them sell for anywhere from $600 to $800+.

Ron

3rdHerd 02-16-2010 05:12 PM

Jerry thanks for the reply and it does not have Germany stamped on it.I sure wish it could tell me it's history.
John

3rdHerd 02-16-2010 05:14 PM

Ron thanks for your reply also hard to believe the sight would bring that much.

John


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