Luger and his brother from another mother.....
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Reunited this Luger with his long lost friend from France, a Walther PP.
See more images here https://imgur.com/a/FYpbzEN with greater zoom and detail Or a video here https://vimeo.com/283227878 short clip of them on a turntable video is locked and password is waltherluger All lowercase and no space |
I've always liked the PP. I could never understand why anyone would want a PPK when they could have the real thing. ;)
Is that a Manurhin PP or just the grips??? |
Yes, it is a Manurhin. Wish the both fired the same caliber!
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What’s on the toggle of the Luger?
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" I could never understand why anyone would want a PPK when they could have the real thing."
I suspect that Ian Fleming had something to do with it... dju |
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http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=38788 Maybe that link will help? If that doesn't answer question happy to try again. |
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I believe your Manurhin PP may be one of the early post war ones. The Manurhin logo changed within the first year of manufacture, and I'm pretty sure your's is the early one. Here's a picture of the billboard on mine for comparison, made within the first 20,000 in 1954.
Has the Luger been proofed post-war? I can't make out enough detail in the markings on the right of the receiver. |
Sorry, didn’t realize it was that Luger! I just wanted to know if it was a DWM, Erfurt, Mauser, etc.
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The PPK is as much the "real deal" as the PP. The PP came out in 1929 with uniformed police use in mind PP=Pistol Police. The PPK came out in 1931 with plainclothes detectives from Kripo in mind for better concealed carry. PPK = Pistol Police Kriminal. Kriminal Police better known as Kripo was the investigating branch of police, same thing as a Police Detective. |
Walther details elsewhere
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https://www.waltherforums.com/forum/...preciated.html Also discussion on the Proofs. Data provided there miles ahead of what I could offer. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=38788 |
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folks on the Walther site indicated the "K" was for Kurz (German for Short)? Possible, your explanation sounds more official and keeping with German sensibilities. The Kurz was probably unofficial nomenclature. |
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At sn 253xx your pistol is also very early Manurhin production, probably from 1954. I've been interested in understanding the point at which the logo banner on these pistols changed to the later one. Your pistol is from the first marking variation.
The PPK was a compact version of the PP. The "K" follows the German word for "Detective": Kriminalpolizei by branding it the "PolizeiPistole Kriminalmodell". It was the smaller pistol they preferred carrying in plain clothes. Your Manurhin PP is in .32acp, of course The "K" in "Kurz" is for "Short" in German, and is how they describe a .380acp cartridge there. "9mm Kurz". In a similar vein, the Spanish call it the "9mm Corto". It is, of course, possible that the more compact pistol also had the unofficial nickname "short" in German. PPK advertising clearly referred to it as the"Kriminalmodell". |
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Where are you in Eastern NC? I was stationed in Goldsboro for a while, ran around Kinston, MCAS Cherry Point, Morehead City, WIlmington. Eastern NC is good country. |
The Luger was reworked by Franken und Lünenschloß
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