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3598 01-01-2013 01:49 AM

Another "rare" Artillery Luger on Gunbroker
 
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=324458640


I like his close-up pictures and a no return policy.

Neil Young 01-01-2013 07:07 AM

$22,000? Heck, I've got a 1916 version that I would let go for only $18,000. That's a special deal.

sheepherder 01-01-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 3598 (Post 226112)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=324458640


I like his close-up pictures and a no return policy.

And -

Shipping Ground: $100.00

Requires FFL? No


Shipping seems excessive...I received a Corvette 4-speed transmission that only cost $78 shipping...

No FFL??? I guess he's presenting it as a rifle, not a pistol... :rolleyes:

drbuster 01-01-2013 12:35 PM

This seller's other auctions indicate this is the first Luger he's listed. Obviously mis-informed as to what it is. Also it looks refinished to my eye. I think the market will prove to him its value!

Edward Tinker 01-01-2013 01:19 PM

still need a FFL for a rifle or shotgun through the mail, ground whatever.

Only in your state (and some states at that) can you get a rifle or shotgun on-line

Arizona Slim 01-01-2013 06:00 PM

I would have to agree with drbuster wholeheartedly, it appears to be refinished to me also. Too bad.
Lon

sheepherder 01-01-2013 08:01 PM

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It is interesting that it appears to have a genuine artillery rear sight and rear sight base anchor (the 'band' around the barrel that the sight base is dovetailed into) and no toggle rear sight...

(I had to lighten it quite a bit to even see the barrel) :mad:

The length and taper of the barrel is impressive...I wonder who made it?

sheepherder 01-02-2013 09:17 AM

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OK, forget the asking price...he's a dreamer... :D

Let's assume that this "Luger" is functional...Everything works like it should...

Now let's try to actually shoot it...We'd need a pretty good load...A 'whopper'...Just to move all that steel hanging in the wind out there...

Or...Maybe all that steel wouldn't move, relatively...Maybe we'd feel the grip frame traveling forward, instead of the barrel traveling backward... :eek:

Now, how would you hold it? Stocked or not, you'd need to support that mass of steel to hold it anywhere on your target...Do you hold the barrel itself with your off hand??? A Luger carbine has a fore-end fastened to the grip frame...Your off hand doesn't move in relation to your trigger hand...With this gun, your two hands would be in motion to each other...Kind of a 'pumping' motion...That can't contribute to accuracy... :rolleyes:

I wonder if a Wal-Mart White Box load would even exit the barrel...Gotta be a lot of friction in that length...Maybe it would just make a 'bloop' noise and fall out on the ground... :p

...Fascinating... :cheers:

(Attaching the images because...well, we gotta save this!)

Edit: I asked seller a question...

"Hello! I think GunBroker put one too many zeroes in the price...But could you state what caliber it is???...A close-up shot of the front sight would be appreciated as well...Thank You!"

I think a full-length Schnabel fore-end (with extended fore-end brace) and a true carbine stock would look really nice on this "Luger"...Fore-end all the way to the front sight band...Some modest checkering on butt-grip & fore-end...Ditch that POS board stock...

sheepherder 01-02-2013 03:12 PM

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Like this one, but with the 16" barrel & Schnabel forestock... :D

George Anderson 01-02-2013 03:31 PM

I had one just like this with 16 inch barrel for several years and shot it with no problems using 115 grain commercial ammo. This modification was marketed by Pacific Arms and others during the twenties. One could either buy the barrel, etc. or send them the pistol to be "enhanced"

sheepherder 01-02-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 226202)
I had one just like this with 16 inch barrel for several years and shot it with no problems using 115 grain commercial ammo.

How did you shoot it, George?...Hold it with the barrel in your off hand??? Lay the barrel over your forearm??? Shoot off a rest??? :confused:

George Anderson 01-02-2013 05:40 PM

I shot it with stock attached and wrapped my left hand around my right to steady it. My recollection is that we had quite a problem coming up with an accurate point of aim at fifty yards.

CAP Black 01-02-2013 11:00 PM

I fired my 16 inch carbine with fiocchi (a little extra zip) and it shot well and recycled just fine.
Jack

ithacaartist 01-03-2013 11:54 AM

Also, I think the board stock is for a Navy--didn't those have medallions fastened to them?

Ben M. 01-06-2013 10:36 AM

walking cane or fire poker. your choice.


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