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cirelaw 10-11-2021 03:58 PM

The Purpose Of The Naval Luger
 
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Ship To Ship Combat~ https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/navy-p14-luger/

ithacaartist 10-12-2021 01:44 PM

Although many merchant ships had deck guns in WWII, it strikes me that "ship to ship combat" was more like piracy/predation. A U Boat versus a destroyer would be more of a fair fight. ;)

sheepherder 10-12-2021 04:20 PM

That painting is all wrong! Disregard the missing deck gun - The whole sub is way too small! :rolleyes:

cirelaw 10-12-2021 07:02 PM

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German Sub Pictures https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_yl...v_t=loki-tb-sb

cirelaw 10-12-2021 07:28 PM

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Navy recruits

gunbugs 10-12-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 341491)
That painting is all wrong! Disregard the missing deck gun - The whole sub is way too small! :rolleyes:

Most of it is under water...Early subs weren't real big, and deck guns didn't become popular til later in WW1. Note they are letting the sailors leave before they sink the ship. They'll probably even bring them aboard and take them prisoner, as opposed to leaving them at sea. Things got a lot more brutal later in the war. Go figure.

cirelaw 10-12-2021 07:46 PM

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Imperial navy

Heinz 10-13-2021 08:06 PM

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My Grandfather, 1914, Rustringen (Wilhelmshaven)

cirelaw 10-13-2021 08:12 PM

God Looking Dude!

cirelaw 10-13-2021 11:03 PM

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They Are Way Cool!

Mac Cat 10-14-2021 01:04 PM

@Cirilaw: Lovely collection !

Can you tell us what the book is about?
The title is: Imperial Marine
But, the second line translates to "2. Matron Division" ?

cirelaw 10-14-2021 01:56 PM

I don't know yet~ I wILL come close!

cirelaw 10-14-2021 02:02 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_German_Navy

cirelaw 10-14-2021 02:17 PM

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U-BOAT COLLECTION` https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/u-boat

m1903a3 10-14-2021 02:56 PM

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The book is a Militärpaβ, the service record for an individual sailor.

That is actually a commercial cover for the Militärpaβ, which contains pages with his personal information, training and awards, promotions, duty stations, and separation.

Here's what the Militärpaβ actually looks like.

m1903a3 10-14-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac Cat (Post 341507)
@Cirilaw: Lovely collection !

Can you tell us what the book is about?
The title is: Imperial Marine
But, the second line translates to "2. Matron Division" ?

Actually, Kaiserliche Marine = Imperial Navy
The 2nd Matrosen Division was the training organization for sailors in Wilhelmshafen. There was 1st M.D. in Kiel.

The Matrosen Division trained the sailors who operated the ships. There were corresponding Werft Divisions that trained the sailors with technical duties. There were also Torpedo Divisions which trained the sailors in operating and maintaining torpedoes. (in those days there were a large number of torpedo boats and virtually every other ship up to and including battleships had torpedo tubes.)
Other training units included the U-Boot Abteilung in Kiel and the Minen Abteilung in Cuxhaven.

The Matrosen and Werft Division sailors received training on machineguns and rifles for landing parties. The Torpedo, U-Boot and Minen units all trained with P.04s

cirelaw 10-14-2021 05:06 PM

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1920 weimer nazi navy artillery. STARTED OUT AS AN IMPERIAL, COVERTED TO WEIMAR THEN TO NAZI NAVY!

Kiwi 10-15-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gunbugs (Post 341498)
(snip). Note they are letting the sailors leave before they sink the ship. They'll probably even bring them aboard and take them prisoner, as opposed to leaving them at sea. Things got a lot more brutal later in the war. Go figure.

Things got more brutal because of the English first sea lord - Winston Churchill.

The English were losing so much shipping that Churchill gave the order to sink any U-boat found on the surface

including boats carrying survivors and the Red Cross on the conning tower.

U-boats then took to sinking by torpedo without surfacing

spangy 10-15-2021 12:39 PM

War is atrocious and therefore soldiers commit atrocities whether by command or individual psychopathy. The winner of any conflict gets to write its history and truth plays only a small part in it.

We are 'told' what a great hero Winston Churchill was and how evil and psychopathic Adolf Hitler was but an in depth study of history proves both premises to be inaccurate.

War allows both the good and evil in mans heart to reveal itself under the illusion of righteousness ... man will always suffer because of this fault and thus we see a captain who will save his enemies from drowning or worse and a captain who will shoot drowning men for sport or hatred.

What would you do ??

Heinz 10-16-2021 08:35 PM

I would not send 6 million to their death in concentration camps.

And do we have any evidence of U-boats with Red Cross flags being sunk by the Royal Navy? There were protocols for exchanging prisoners.


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