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LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 01:08 PM

Luger 45 ACP Project
 
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Happy to report that 45 Luger project is near completion, We are still working on dies for stamping the magazine, but the gun was tested with one of Mike Krause ‘s magazines.

I’d like to see harder lips and magazine body, as I can only reliably load 3-4 rounds in Mikes magazine, and lips started moving on me.

I ordered 1095 spring steel to use in making our magazine so it can be hardened.

Showed the gun off at the Allentown PA show past weekend, Ed T. can be a witness to that, he was there too.

Sold 9 out of first batch of 12 guns already, visit the site for more info and pictures

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 01:09 PM

LMI Logo stands for Luger Man Inc if anyone questions that.

Also toggle checkering is not finished, it will be like original , when we are done with it.

sheepherder 02-13-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 298745)
LMI Logo stands for Luger Man Inc if anyone questions that.

That was me. I couldn't read it. ;)

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Also toggle checkering is not finished, it will be like original , when we are done with it.
I had noticed that. :)

I have never wanted a .45 Luger but I support your endeavor. :thumbup:

http://www.lugerman.com/Pages/MainPages/Luger45.html

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 298756)
I have never wanted a .45 Luger but I support your endeavor. :thumbup:

All it takes is to take a couple of shots from one, it shoots like butter,
Probably the softest shooting handgun in 45ACP,

And probably 10mm will shoot just as soft out of it.

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 07:17 PM

All frames and slides pictures
 
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Pictures added to the page of all frames and slides.
I wish i had more ;0)

ithacaartist 02-13-2017 07:51 PM

We have wondered how this project has been coming along, and your news is good! Thank you for the update.

Edward Tinker 02-13-2017 07:59 PM

David, I held it in my hands, twice. it is well balanced, extremely nice and beautiful gun.

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 08:02 PM

sharing
 
Ed T,
was in the loop, he just does not share all that much ;0)

But on more serous note, thanks to Ed for his support at the show.

And maybe he will be taking one to show off at the next show he is goign to.

Or do I need to say most likely

Edward Tinker 02-13-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 298765)
Ed T,
was in the loop, he just does not share all that much ;0)

its a fairly important project, so I didn't want to spoil it. But when I showed my carbine you made, I showed 45 parts. You've done well, that stack of frames and uppers is the big work. You've got all the toggles and internals all done already right?

And it had to be new, larger parts, not same 9mm luger size?

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 10:17 PM

All small parts are done for 12 units,
Other 28 in process of catching up.

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 10:18 PM

Will add more pictures of small parts tomorow when I have more time

LugerMan.com 02-13-2017 10:19 PM

All parts are different sizes,
Only extractors and ejectors can be reused from P08,
But ALL parts are made new from scratch

G.T. 02-13-2017 10:39 PM

Impressive!!!
 
Just that, Impressive!!! Well, maybe outstanding! as well....GT:jumper:

DonVoigt 02-14-2017 08:38 AM

I'm still curious why the rear of the frame is cut for the lanyard clearance, but I see no lanyard loop.
Do you plan to add the loop in production pieces?

LugerMan.com 02-14-2017 10:20 AM

Loop
 
Yes the loop will be added,
not a top priority as mags come first,
But will do the loop for sure

LugerMan.com 02-14-2017 11:45 AM

First batch sold out
 
First batch is sold out by 11:30 AM on 2/14/2017
Second batch is avalalbe.

LugerMan.com 02-14-2017 06:56 PM

6 sold from second batch .. 22 are still available

LugerMan.com 02-14-2017 07:11 PM

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Other options a 45 ACP BABY Luger
6 shot, 3 inch barrel
This one I am doing for myself

Curss 02-15-2017 07:42 AM

Beautiful work. A baby in .45ACP would be an impressive pistol to behold at the range!

LugerMan.com 02-15-2017 08:05 AM

7 out of the second batch is gone, only 21 is available

sheepherder 02-15-2017 10:41 AM

I remember when Eugene was first 'feeling out' the responses he could expect from members of this Forum...For the new members, here are two of the best... :)

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=27738

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=27718

LugerMan.com 02-15-2017 06:52 PM

10 sold from second batch,
Only 18 are up for grabs

sheepherder 02-15-2017 09:57 PM

I read the thread on Still's forum...Sounds like on-the-fence collectors who previously decided they couldn't afford Krause's .45 Lugers are re-thinking purchase of Eugene's at $5K price... :)

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...-back-for-sale

I'm surprised no handgun journalist [coff*SGN*coff] has raced to Eugene's door... :p

LugerMan.com 02-16-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 298908)
I read the thread on Still's forum...Sounds like on-the-fence collectors who previously decided they couldn't afford Krause's .45 Lugers are re-thinking purchase of Eugene's at $5K price... :)

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...-back-for-sale

I'm surprised no handgun journalist [coff*SGN*coff] has raced to Eugene's door... :p

Amen to that note, I have been banging on Guns and Ammo doors for month .. no response.

I guess they are not after news ... but something else.

There are plenty more channels ...

This person reach out yesterday:

http://m.youtube.com/user/VickersTacticalInc

When the gun is tested I will visit and have him make a video

LugerMan.com 02-16-2017 08:34 AM

Second batch is drying out
11 sold from second batch,
Only 17 are up for grabs

LugerMan.com 02-16-2017 12:59 PM

As of today 2/16/2017 1:00 PM
12 units out of First Batch are preordered, no more available
12 units out of Second Batch are preordered and 16 available.

TheRomanhistorian 02-16-2017 10:04 PM

Damn, if I weren't planning a wedding then I'd already be on this as I think a .45 ACP Luger would be fun (just like the .45 Shansei I have). If nothing else it'd be a great display (which I'd get to use a few times a year!).

Are these the only two batches you'll ever make, Eugene?

Michael

sheepherder 02-16-2017 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRomanhistorian (Post 298943)
Damn, if I weren't planning a wedding then I'd already be on this as I think a .45 ACP Luger would be fun (just like the .45 Shansei I have). If nothing else it'd be a great display (which I'd get to use a few times a year!).

Are these the only two batches you'll ever make, Eugene?

Michael

If it's something you really want, then you'll regret not taking advantage of it now...Life is too short... :(

Check out Eugene's payment options - You can string the payments out until December... :thumbup:

LugerMan.com 02-17-2017 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRomanhistorian (Post 298943)
Damn, if I weren't planning a wedding then I'd already be on this as I think a .45 ACP Luger would be fun (just like the .45 Shansei I have). If nothing else it'd be a great display (which I'd get to use a few times a year!).

Are these the only two batches you'll ever make, Eugene?

Michael

Its out to open market for 4 days and I sold 24 of them.. at this rate it will be silly not to make more, but I want to test demand out a bit before we get to third batch. It has slowed down a bit after initial wave has passed.


Also, there are a couple of small changes i want to make, to make manufacturing easier and when that happens, maybe in another 2 years, there maybe two versions running... classic unchanged and economy simplified .

At that point the price may be changing... up for classic and down for economy.

These first guns will always be the first ones and time will make them more valuable.

TheRomanhistorian 02-17-2017 10:31 AM

Thanks, Eugene! I was tempted by the Baby .45, too, but I may have to see if I can find some give in the budget and not tell the wife to be (though she has already caught me looking at the pictures and sighing).

Rich - You're a great friend and a terrible enabler (now you have me budgeting)... ;)

sheepherder 02-17-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRomanhistorian (Post 298962)
Rich - You're a great friend and a terrible enabler (now you have me budgeting)... ;)

Never mind the budgeting! Look in your safe - What don't you use??? You do know that Eugene buys & sells as well as manufactures, right??? Surely you must have something that he'll take in trade... ;)

Then you can tell the Romanhistoriana-to-be, "Look honey! I'm thinning out the collection!"... :D

LugerMan.com 02-17-2017 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 298967)
Never mind the budgeting! Look in your safe - What don't you use??? You do know that Eugene buys & sells as well as manufactures, right??? Surely you must have something that he'll take in trade... ;)

Then you can tell the Romanhistoriana-to-be, "Look honey! I'm thinning out the collection!"... :D

We will trade...

Anything that does not sit well with you, needs work ,
parts guns.. old and tired .. that's our game.

WWI and WWII and older... we will consider.

And will be as fair as we can on the trades.

LugerMan.com 02-17-2017 12:04 PM

Looking for a 1905 COLT 45 .. in bad shape to work on and then use in a test next to the Luger ...

or a couple if someone got more then one.

TheRomanhistorian 02-20-2017 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 298968)
We will trade...

Anything that does not sit well with you, needs work ,
parts guns.. old and tired .. that's our game.

WWI and WWII and older... we will consider.

And will be as fair as we can on the trades.

Eugene, I'll send you a PM in a day or two once I go in and inventory my safe! :)

Until then, keep up your amazing work. I'm really excited about the photos I've seen and you bringing this project to fruition.

LugerMan.com 02-21-2017 02:39 PM

As of today 2/21/2017 2:30 PM
12 units out of First Batch are preordered, no more available
16 units out of Second Batch are preordered and 12 available.

sheepherder 02-23-2017 11:50 AM

I posted this in the Gun Show Announcements sub-forum, but I'll copy it here...I want to see this succeed and have the two runs sell out so that Eugene can go on to his next project... ;)

Like it says...It may be your last chance... :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 299223)
I understand from the other thread that Ed Tinker will be taking a sample of Eugene's .45 Luger to the [Louisville] show. At last check, only 12 were left out of Eugene's second run. I imagine that the 12 will sell out this weekend after visitors to the show see the Golubstov .45 Luger. :thumbup:

If you're still sitting on the fence for an affordable .45 Luger, Eugene has written that any additional runs of the .45 won't be for a year or two, if ever. And cost more. CNC workstations ain't cheap. :p

This weekend may be your last chance. :)


LugerMan.com 02-23-2017 02:26 PM

Luger 45 Baby
 
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Custom Luger 45 Baby Luger.
Available based on second batch guns.

sheepherder 02-27-2017 10:30 AM

Well, I assume Ed is still writing up his exhaustive review of the Show, but does anyone have any information on whether the 'show sample' .45 Luger got any more prospective buyers to place their order??? :)

My nephew is a sorta collector/investor. I forwarded him Eugene's web site address and phone number. ;)

Norme 02-27-2017 12:18 PM

Hi Rick,
I had the opportunity to examine Ed's sample at the show, here are my observations.
Fit and finish is superb, despite the heavier barrel the gun feels well balanced because the frame is heavier and larger too, it just feels solid. I especially like that Eugene was able to duplicate the unique original trigger shape of the original 45's.
I have three small issues and two large ones. I don't like the thumb safety marking, a small arrow pointing up. What's that supposed to mean, locked or unlocked? I don't like the initials on the middle toggle link, styled to resemble DWM's logo and the gun I looked at had no serial number, nothing, nada!
My biggest issue is that missing magazine. This is not a trivial little matter that can be taken care of after the fact, it took decades for DWM to get their magazines to work reliably and to this day G.T. is still kept busy tuning them up. Ideally a magazine should be developed together with the gun, it is not an afterthought. My other caveat is reliability. Military guns undergo exhaustive testing involving firing thousands of rounds in extreme conditions. From what I've read Eugene has only been able to fire a few rounds before his test magazines malfunctioned.
All that said, this is a noble effort and I congratulate Eugene for having gotten this far.
Norm

Dwight Gruber 02-27-2017 12:56 PM

Eugene,

I handled the .45 at SOS quite a bit, and I liked it. My one comment is, the top of the grip safety "bit" the web of my palm between my thumb and forefinger, when depressed.

--Dwight


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