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jsmith 11-23-2015 08:57 PM

1920 DWM S. Mg. 359 unit marking Mm?
 
Hi i have a 1920 manf. DWM 9mm luger, marked S. Mg. 359, It has 2 dove eagle proofs on it's barrel extension's right side.
Can anyone translate this for me ? Thanks Jim

George Anderson 11-23-2015 09:35 PM

Why do you think it is 1920 manufacture? That date on the chamber may be misleading. Can you post photos of the unit marking and pistol?

Edward Tinker 11-23-2015 10:04 PM

doves are a good indication of early 1920's manufacture, but a number of pictures of the 1920, doves, left, right, and marking would be good.

Ed

jsmith 11-23-2015 11:23 PM

I'll try to take pics, but it'll be hard as it's been stripped.The eagles and 1920 are weak. I'm pretty sure its 1920 because it's factory stamped, not added for verisalles. I translate markings to Prussian police 1922 Magdesburg dist weapon #359.
Serial numbered 6014 n.

DonVoigt 11-29-2015 09:27 AM

On a 6014n pistol, the 1920 is likely a property number; some are stamped quite well- though many are pretty "funky".

Lets see some pictures!

jsmith 12-01-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 280619)
On a 6014n pistol, the 1920 is likely a property number; some are stamped quite well- though many are pretty "funky".

Lets see some pictures!

Here is some pictures, not the best but the pistol is stripped.

Ron Wood 12-01-2015 03:26 PM

Judging from the placement of the 1920 on the chamber, I would think it is a property marking rather than a date. The unit marking is for the Schutzpolizei (protection police) Magdeburg district.

alanint 12-01-2015 04:19 PM

Was this pistol bead blasted? The surface sure looks like it.

DonVoigt 12-01-2015 04:49 PM

1920 and 1921 dated military lugers were only made in the no suffix, a, and b suffix numbers;
not "n".
An Alphabet commercial in the "n" suffix would have been made later in the 1920's without any date, so any with a "1920"on the chamber would be a "1920 property" marking.
ref. Weimar Lugers by Still, p-13-14.

Are you sure it is an "n", how about a picture from the front of the frame?

Must have been sand blasted, glass won't move that much metal! JMHO.

Dwight Gruber 12-01-2015 05:33 PM

I will respectfully disagree with my friend Ron, and opine that the 1920 is a chamber date. The e/ArA4 stamps ten to support this.

From the information and pictures you have shown so far, it appears that the frame and upper were originally different guns.

Can you provide a photo of the markings under the barrel?

--Dwight

jsmith 12-01-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 280762)
Was this pistol bead blasted? The surface sure looks like it.

No not Bead Blasted, Naval Jelly, Pistol had surface rust.
Heres a couple more pics, sorry so bad but should work.

Don M 12-04-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 280763)
1920 and 1921 dated military lugers were only made in the no suffix, a, and b suffix numbers;
not "n".

There was an "n" series manufactured in 1920. See http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...light=n-suffix and many other posts.


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