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Edward Tinker 09-10-2021 01:01 PM

Lugers in the old west
 
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I've pretty much lost my pictures of the old west and lugers, but here is one I saw today.
I have a couple of pictures I've bought off of ebay, a lady shooting from the 30's or so.

Mac Cat 09-10-2021 02:38 PM

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The third one I have - it's some Texas Rangers (1907) - Del Rio, Texas (on the border).
Capt. John H. Rogers is holding the Luger.
Standing behind him is Frank Hamer - part of the team that hunted down Bonnie and Clyde.

Those cowboys also had 1921 Tommy Guns, too!

Shooting Times

hayhugh 09-10-2021 03:29 PM

I have a 1900 commercial Luger that looks like it might have been used by the boys in the old West.
Nothing wrong with it just that it is well worn, Ya know like an every day carry. Stamped America so it was sold here and used here...

Edward Tinker 09-10-2021 08:05 PM

Neat picture - my 1900 had a story that I don't have a reason to disbelieve.
Guys were hunting (in the area of the the frozen lakes between USA and Canada, but not sure of location except that is where he is from). And they are sitting around a campfire and a trapper comes in and they played poker and evidently lost, as he lost his AE 1900 and I bought it from the son that got the pistol.

Heinz 09-11-2021 05:16 PM

Great photos great story, thanks

jeb111 09-12-2021 10:47 PM

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Found this Luger at a gun show this weekend and thought it might go with this thread. I asked the owner if I could take a picture of his display and he was very good with that!

spangy 09-13-2021 12:43 AM

Honestly this picture breaks my heart. :( This gun should have outlived us all.

schutzen-jager 09-13-2021 08:04 AM

many decades ago Elmer Keith wrote in one of his magazine columns that one of his wranglers he used on his pack in trips carried a luger - his reason being that the luger would shoot clear thru an oak wagon tongue , while no .32 , .38, .44 , or .45 could !

schutzen-jager 09-13-2021 10:08 AM

from Skelton articule
 
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Sieger 09-14-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by schutzen-jager (Post 341085)
many decades ago Elmer Keith wrote in one of his magazine columns that one of his wranglers he used on his pack in trips carried a luger - his reason being that the luger would shoot clear thru an oak wagon tongue , while no .32 , .38, .44 , or .45 could !

Hi,

Please explain just what "an oak wagon tongue" is.

Thanks!


Sieger

gunbugs 09-14-2021 08:51 PM

The wagon tongue is the part that extends forward from the wagon that the harnesses are attached to.

Mac Cat 09-14-2021 09:24 PM

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The wagon tongue is the wooden shaft that the horses or mules are attached to pull the wagon.
It's usually 3-4 inches thick.

Edward Tinker 09-14-2021 10:21 PM

I’d still like that 1900 as a shadow box.
Best my dad found was a hunting knife next to an old stump. I’ve got it now.

Ed

Sieger 09-15-2021 08:42 AM

Wagon Tongue
 
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Originally Posted by gunbugs (Post 341108)
The wagon tongue is the part that extends forward from the wagon that the harnesses are attached to.

Thanks for your response!

Well, as much as I really love the original 9mm Parabellum round, I really doubt that the other rounds listed were such poor performers.

Remembering that even the German Army round was only a 123 grain bullet at 1,076 fps, Keith's comment seems to lack accuracy to me. Penetration tests of the other rounds listed should easily verify the truth here.

Respectfully,


Sieger

gunbugs 09-15-2021 09:09 AM

Back in the day, Keith was probably talking about the 30 cal instead of the 9mm.

schutzen-jager 09-15-2021 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gunbugs (Post 341116)
Back in the day, Keith was probably talking about the 30 cal instead of the 9mm.

+ the other calibers mentioned were probably low powered or utilizing very soft lead projectiles - the fmj .30 luger cartridge would exhibit superior penetration -

Sieger 09-15-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by schutzen-jager (Post 341117)
+ the other calibers mentioned were probably low powered or utilizing very soft lead projectiles - the fmj .30 luger cartridge would exhibit superior penetration -

May be, but the 7.65 Parabellum really is not all that powerful either, a real toy compared to a 7.63 Mauser or a 7.62 Tokerav.

In the original booklet, that came with the Parabellum Pistols, there are penetration figures included. Yes, the 7.65 penetrates deeper in wood than the 9mm does.

Sieger

schutzen-jager 09-15-2021 03:32 PM

definitely Mauser broom handles in old west , but the Tokerevs came much later -


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