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Tarfu43 04-18-2021 11:57 AM

Unit-Marked 1918 Erfurt
 
I have an opportunity to buy a 1918 Erfurt, with a unit marking on the frontstrap. The gun is matching except for the grips and mag (which match). Finish is 80%, straw is 50%. Bore is decent. Being a 1918 pistol, isn’t it unusual that there is a unit marking on it? It looks legit. Patina is the same as the rest of the pistol. Price is $1800. Would appreciate opinions. Thanks!

wlyon 04-18-2021 02:14 PM

Seems a bit high priced for the condition. Bill

Norme 04-18-2021 02:38 PM

Hi Bob,
Not all 80%'s are equal, you had better post photos if you want a meaningful opinion.
Norm

Tarfu43 04-18-2021 03:55 PM

Understood. The price is a bit high. Does the fact that it’s a unit-marked 1918 pistol add that much to the value?

wlyon 04-18-2021 11:22 PM

That pretty much depends on the collectors taste. To me I don't care whether they are marked or not. To others it would probably add some amount. Bill

lugerholsterrepair 04-18-2021 11:26 PM

What's the unit?

Tarfu43 04-19-2021 08:34 AM

Here's the unit mark; 142.R.11.16
Anyone know what it means?

jeb111 04-19-2021 09:17 AM

Saw a 1917 Erfurt for sale at a gun show this past weekend, all matching including mag and maybe same finish condition as you describe for $1600 not unit marked though. I bet I could get it a bit cheaper. Anyway prices being what they are now $1800 maybe a bit high but might seem reasonable in the near future.

Neil Young 04-19-2021 10:31 AM

My guess is the 142nd Infantry Regiment, company 11, weapon #16.

Doubs 04-19-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Young (Post 338358)
My guess is the 142nd Infantry Regiment, company 11, weapon #16.

I agree.

Not many 1918 Lugers were unit marked. It would be nice to see clear, sharp and detailed pictures of the gun in question. The frame serial number and suffix letter might tell us something.

I also think $1800 is too high based on the OP's description.

Tarfu43 04-19-2021 04:14 PM

I don't have any close-up pics, unfortunately. I do appreciate everyone's feedback, however. Thanks!

MikeP 04-20-2021 12:53 PM

I remember in the early 60s, collectors were turning up their noses at unit marks.
Also '41 BYFs with black grips....
I like unit marks just out of interest.
Fickle we can be.

spangy 04-20-2021 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeP (Post 338379)
I remember in the early 60s, collectors were turning up their noses at unit marks.
Also '41 BYFs with black grips....
I like unit marks just out of interest.
Fickle we can be.

I like proper unit marks as well ... IMO the markings add verifiable history to a gun as well as value. :rockon:

Tarfu43 04-20-2021 07:46 PM

Again, thanks, all, for the great comments. I’m going to make a play for the pistol. There’s just something about it that speaks to me. If I end-up buying the pistol, I’ll be sure to post pictures on this thread. Take care!

Tarfu43 05-12-2021 10:39 AM

Well, I bought the Luger. Please let me know what you think.
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Tarfu43 05-12-2021 10:41 AM

For some reason the pictures got cropped. Sorry. I'll try this again....

Tarfu43 05-12-2021 10:45 AM

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wlyon 05-12-2021 12:46 PM

It may be just the pictures but it looks refinished. It appears to be very shiny. Bill

Doubs 05-12-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wlyon (Post 338875)
It may be just the pictures but it looks refinished. It appears to be very shiny. Bill

Bill, I agree. I also think the left grip is a replacement. The fit and the wear doesn't match the right grip.

HerrKaiser 05-12-2021 04:18 PM

I second the notion that it’s refinished.


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