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cirelaw 07-19-2017 09:42 AM

No Nazi~
 
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I was wondering if Nazi proofs ever appeared on Krieghoff lugers and if not why not? There are unique inspection markings and dedicated nazi handbooks~

DonVoigt 07-19-2017 09:47 AM

Those are Luftwaffe inspector markings/proof.
Who knows if the stamps were "nazi" or not.

The Luftwaffe dates to the period of the "Third Reich".

Edward Tinker 07-19-2017 10:22 AM

yes, of course they are Nazi - they are just the Krieghoff inspector marking who was a german - and working for the nazi regime

cirelaw 07-19-2017 10:36 AM

Thank You~ Great Point!!!

1933 FORD NUT 07-19-2017 11:21 AM

If the question is about swastikas on HK Lugers the answer is NO .

cirelaw 07-19-2017 12:11 PM

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I noticed in Jans' Third Reich the following~ Page 13~

1933 FORD NUT 07-19-2017 01:45 PM

Pretty clear he is not talking about HK's here .

cirelaw 07-19-2017 02:18 PM

Thank You, no neither was I~Jan refers to Army test proofs~ "P08 Military"

kurusu 07-19-2017 04:35 PM

That is ironic. There is no Luger more NAZI than the Krieghoff. Snatched from Simson because they were Jews. Buddy Luftwaffe contract because of Goering (maybe he wasn't a NAZI afterall. :rolleyes:).

cirelaw 07-19-2017 05:31 PM

I am watching a documentary on Stalin and Hitler. Both were some of the worse criminal in mankind. I think the nut job in North Korea is going to come in third!!!! The problem the is often no one to stand up to internally. Tragic. Not much has changed! An ally can become an enemy in the blink of an eye! Strong military and leaders are the sole solution or hope! Lugers played a large part in history. It tool the pull of a trigger to start one world war and the push of another to end another world war!! A lot depends upon whose finger is first on the trigger!

1933 FORD NUT 07-20-2017 01:41 AM

If you are serious about this you need to do a serious fact check on this.
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Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 305596)
That is ironic. There is no Luger more NAZI than the Krieghoff. Snatched from Simson because they were Jews. Buddy Luftwaffe contract because of Goering (maybe he wasn't a NAZI afterall. :rolleyes:).


DonVoigt 07-20-2017 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 1933 FORD NUT (Post 305623)
If you are serious about this you need to do a serious fact check on your BS .

Which part of this is BS?:confused:

1933 FORD NUT 07-20-2017 10:59 AM

Start with pages 14-15 in Gibsons book .

Been a student of HK's for a long time and never heard this before .

Maybe the accuser should offer some facts ?

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 305624)
Which part of this is BS?:confused:


DonVoigt 07-20-2017 11:07 AM

I do have Gibson's book, but many don't- so would you mind summarizing your take on this?

cirelaw 07-20-2017 11:24 AM

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Prince Ferdinand assasination started the first world war and the dropping of the atomic bombs ended the second! http://historythings.com/archduke-franz-ferdinand/

Norme 07-20-2017 11:28 AM

As I recall Heinrich Kreighoff was interviewed after the war at which time he stated that he had not been an "enthusiastic Nazi". This is something of a joke as you would be hard put, in post-war Germany, to find anyone who admitted to having been one.
Norm

1933 FORD NUT 07-20-2017 11:29 AM

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Form your own opinions .
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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 305631)
I do have Gibson's book, but many don't- so would you mind summarizing your take on this?


kurusu 07-20-2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1933 FORD NUT (Post 305636)
Form your own opinions .

That is from where I got my opinion.

1933 FORD NUT 07-20-2017 02:09 PM

We are definitely all free to form our own opinions .

To be clear I am no fan of the NSDAP or what they did .

I actually like the lack of swastikas on HK Lugers .

My issue here is I have never seen any documentation of the HK firm having anything to do with the demise of Simson . The NSDAP is guilty of it IMHO .

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Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 305650)
That is from where I got my opinion.


kurusu 07-20-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1933 FORD NUT (Post 305653)
We are definitely all free to form our own opinions .

To be clear I am no fan of the NSDAP or what they did .

I actually like the lack of swastikas on HK Lugers .

My issue here is I have never seen any documentation of the HK firm having anything to do with the demise of Simson . The NSDAP is guilty of it IMHO .

To make it clear too, I never thought you were a fan of the Nationalsozialisticher Deutsche Arbeiter partei either.

HK didn't directly took party in the demise of Simson, but they sure took profit from it.


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