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jay Christensen 11-23-2009 06:28 PM

Krieghoff Luger
 
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I've inherited my Dad's Luger. It is stamped Heinrich Krieghoff Waffenfabrik Suhl on the side and 819 up near the barrel and P819 under the barrel. There is also a very small symbol that resembles a crown or a star with either a number 11 or N underneath it. On the top is an Anchor symbol with a capitol H and K on each side of the anchor and Krieghoff Suhl stamped underneath. I have an extra magazine and holster. My Dad was stationed at an airbase in Germany and a German General flew his plane in to surrender to the Americans on the second to last day of the war. He handed his Luger to my Dad and my Dad smuggled it home. Everything is in beautiful condition. How much might this gun be worth?

jay Christensen 11-23-2009 06:29 PM

Krieghoff Luger
 
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Here are additional photos

Edward Tinker 11-23-2009 06:36 PM

Does either magazine match?


Krieghoff's are worth a lot, although condition is everything, you'll want to have it verified by an krieghoff expert who will be able to tell if all matching.

My feeling is that it is worth (if all matching) at $7,000-$10,000


Most lugers are not even close to this amount, it is simply because it is a P code (commeriical model) and in excellent shape.



Ed

cma22inc 11-23-2009 07:50 PM

:eek:

cirelaw 11-23-2009 08:12 PM

Congradulations
 
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You have a documentable early civilian Kreighoff, worth more than you think!

saab-bob 11-23-2009 08:28 PM

Incredible gun! That is like winning the lottery!:jumper:

Quick question for the forum members.
I am curious about the holster. It looks like a post war commercial holster. Would that same style have been available during the war?
Thanks
Bob

rolandtg 11-23-2009 08:33 PM

Beautiful Luger!
Is it missing the stock lug or is it just the angle at which the photo was taken?
Is that a P-38 holster??

jay Christensen 11-23-2009 08:47 PM

I have no idea what the stock lug is.

alvin 11-23-2009 09:14 PM

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Stock lug is as pointed. Have a picture of that area?

cirelaw 11-24-2009 09:18 AM

I wondered if there were stock lugs on almost all the luger, where are all the stocks. Were they the same as those on the navy or artillery?

RichSr 11-24-2009 09:35 AM

Eric,
The experts could better explain, but I believe all frames manufactured by DWM,Erfurt after sometime in 1913 (and subsequently Simson, Mauser, etc) incorporated the stock lugs.

Edward Tinker 11-24-2009 10:39 AM

they did, but they were not used for stocks most of the time

alanint 11-24-2009 10:42 AM

It would be a crime if this particular pistol had succumbed to the lug grinding hysteria of some years ago.....

cirelaw 11-24-2009 12:17 PM

Could You please post a picture of the back side. I just want to confirm which of 2 German manfacturers it is!

cirelaw 11-24-2009 12:46 PM

This is a Dated Kreighoff Holster
 
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displayed on page 119, H. EGER & LINDE SCHMALDEN 1937 identical to mine.

jay Christensen 11-24-2009 07:11 PM

It looks like the stock lug has been filed off. I'm sure my Dad would not have done it, so it must have been done by the German officer who surrendered it to my Dad. One magazine has no number or markings on it and the other has 9631. Under the number is a script "b" and a + sign.

jay Christensen 11-24-2009 07:16 PM

I don't see any markings at all on the back side of the gun. What would tell you who manufactured the weapon?

suum cuique 11-24-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jay Christensen (Post 169348)
It looks like the stock lug has been filed off. I'm sure my Dad would not have done it, so it must have been done by the German officer who surrendered it to my Dad. One magazine has no number or markings on it and the other has 9631. Under the number is a script "b" and a + sign.

If the stock lug was removed, this would decrease the value of your gun dramaticly :eek:

Ron Wood 11-24-2009 07:25 PM

Jay,
You have a really nice Krieghoff. The stock lug removal is not what we would like to see but it happens. Could you please post some photos of the area of the grip where the stock lug would be, both from the back and the bottom of the grip?
Thank you,
Ron

cirelaw 11-24-2009 07:58 PM

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Solved and rarer. This was a rework as shown on 268-9.'These serial numbers on these reworked weapon will be those of the original manufacturer. Kreighoff did not renumber the weapons in their own range. Boy would I like to own this one.


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