Swiss 9mm aluminum ammo, 1943
 

Just scored this little sealed box, together with a sample round, at a local collector's meet.

This 9mm version was only produced between 1941 and 1945. The box differs somewhat from the .30 luger versions. It also holds 16 rounds, but both sides can be opened up independently so that a magazine ration of 8 rounds can be removed from the box.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dscf0721.jpg

For comparison the more common .30 luger (7,65 parabellum) box:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/765_box.jpg

Hi Gerbin you do come up with some wonderful finds.

Hi Gerben,

I, too, have an identical box of un-opened Swiss 9 mm ammo that is dated 1943 as well.

I was curious and perplexed about the 9 mm use in 1943; as the Swiss Ordnance did not adopt the 9 mm round until the P49 SIG pistol.

I asked on the Swiss Rifles forum what Swiss Ordnance weapon would have used 9 mm in 1943. "Guisan" indicated Swiss machine guns, did.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...mo_1_copy1.jpg

Hi Pete,

The Swiss machineguns are part of the story. Extensive testing in order to find a follow-up for the luger was done between 1941 and 1946. This included 9mm SIG and 9mm Swiss Parabellum versions. There were also some competition versions of the Swiss Parabellum in 9mm.

The packaging (2 x 8 rounds) also suggests that it was meant for pistol use rather than machine gun use. I don't see myself loading a machine gun with the contents of these packages.

Gentlemen,

I was advised recently not to use aluminum cased ammo because the softer netal expands more inside the chamber making it harder to extract. Is that correct and is that why your aluminum ammo stays sealed in the boxes?

Russell

Tac,

Thank you for clearing that up.

Russell

Please Terry,

Where in Nihon is Yingtong? The closest I can guess is Ito (Yitong) on Izu Hanto.
:confused:

Russell

Tac,

Sounds sort of right to me. It looks like a Wade-Giles transliteration of Chinese words meaning lands 'east of England'. Is that about right?
Anyway, if I were still a 'young' man with no particular attachments I would be pleased to hang out in East Asia again. Some of my most enlightening encounters along the road were with British and Australian travelers (not tourists). Problem is, you don't get to own a gun. Permanent residency is hard to get, also.

Hope you are enjoying your time way out east and get a chance to travel around.

To everyone else,
Didn't mean to take over this thread. It just happened.

Best wishes from the USA,

Russell