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milesc2 12-25-2023 08:14 AM

1917 Navy, is it legit?
 
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I picked up this 1917 Navy online. Only have one decent photo of it so far, but I could see serial number halos under the barrel so I bought it. Seller says it’s all matching except the mag.

Can you guys see anything wrong with it? Does not look counterfeit to me, but I’m no expert. Got it for 2K, took a gamble. How did I do?

Thanks,
-Miles

spangy 12-25-2023 10:43 AM

Merry Christmas Miles :p

Your NAVY is on my wish list and @ 2K you did well IMO.
There are qualifiers though ... corrosion issues & bore being chief among them ... is the bore OK, any internal rust problems ??

Otherwise Congratulations :thumbup:

Norme 12-25-2023 02:06 PM

Hi Miles,
Welcome to the Navy Luger owner's club!
Your Navy looks legit in the photos you post, however we need much more than those views to be sure. What is the serial number, it may be a known gun?
Regards, Norm

milesc2 12-25-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 348912)
Hi Miles,
Welcome to the Navy Luger owner's club!
Your Navy looks legit in the photos you post, however we need much more than those views to be sure. What is the serial number, it may be a known gun?
Regards, Norm

I will post the serial number and more photos as soon as it’s in hand.

Thanks!

Blm14740 12-26-2023 12:02 AM

If it proves to be legit and you got it for 2k, you hit a home run!

-Brandon

Mac Cat 12-26-2023 12:35 AM

Welcome to the forum.

Your 1917 Navy luger looks pretty good.
The grips are in good shape and the magazine may be correct (concentric circles and wood base)
Matching barrel and halos are a very good sign.

The finish is pretty good on the strawed parts (takedown, trigger and safety lever).

The pictures are too dark to make out much else.

There is a lot more to look for, particularly under the barrel, inside and the magazine.

I think you did good, too !

lugerholsterrepair 12-26-2023 06:52 PM

It MIGHT be the white background..a less than good background for photos but the pistol looks too black? Maybe a Russian dip?

Mac Cat 12-26-2023 11:31 PM

Would a Russian dip leave the straw parts untouched ?
I think it's just low grade photography, but I'm anxious to see more !!

milesc2 12-29-2023 02:23 PM

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Here are some more detailed photos. Looks like a nice one to me. Please let me know what you think.

milesc2 12-29-2023 02:27 PM

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More photos

Norme 12-29-2023 03:06 PM

Hi Miles? It's a beautiful gun and looks all original to me.
How about the magazine?
Norm

milesc2 12-29-2023 03:07 PM

Mag is unmarked. Is this one already on the list of know guns by chance?

milesc2 12-29-2023 03:38 PM

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Forgot one.

spangy 12-29-2023 03:49 PM

https://i.imgur.com/jS7QX.gif milesc2 With these pics and seeing the guns interior I am even more impressed ... you did fantastic @ 2k. I still wonder about the bore but it is probably ok.

Love the type 2 gravity knife too. :thumbup:

milesc2 12-29-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spangy (Post 348966)
https://i.imgur.com/jS7QX.gif milesc2 With these pics and seeing the guns interior I am even more impressed ... you did fantastic @ 2k. I still wonder about the bore but it is probably ok.

It was hard to photograph, but looks like factory new to me.

Blm14740 12-29-2023 04:27 PM

Great score! Congratulations!

spangy 12-29-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milesc2 (Post 348967)
It was hard to photograph, but looks like factory new to me.

I suspect looking at the witness mark that the barrel has been reworked at some point ... typically Navy Luger's were fired often as Imperial kriegsmarine were highly trained. One must also consider these guns operated in a salt water environment too. :rolleyes:

Great gun ... I'm jealous 4 sure :rockon:

Mac Cat 12-29-2023 07:23 PM

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[QUOTE]Is this one already on the list of know guns by chance?/QUOTE]

No, it's not on Norm's Navy list.
It goes from 3696 to 3713 for 1917
I'm sure he will want to add yours.

Norme 12-30-2023 07:06 AM

Hi Miles,
Your beautiful gun is a new listing on the Navy List. If you would like a link to the list send me a PM (Personal Message) with your email address, I'll send you the link.
Regards, Norm

milesc2 01-05-2024 08:51 PM

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Found a decent stock replica. Waiting for some leather parts now.


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