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StarOfTheWest 01-18-2008 12:00 PM

1937 Krieghoff
1937 Krieghoff
Serial 9701
Another pretty one from the collection.
Seems marked correctly, and has a plethora of E/2 stamps on many small parts.
Gorgeous finish.
Has only a tiny bit of holster and action cycling wear, slight wear on grip straps from a lot of fondling, and some fading to straw parts.

Somehow, I bet this guy worked at a desk.

Mag not matched, E/63,#7558d

John Sabato 01-18-2008 01:49 PM

REALLY Nice one Anna... That Krieghoff craftsmanship is a marvel to look at even after all these 60 odd years of "progress"... thanks again for sharing.

StarOfTheWest 01-18-2008 02:47 PM

Thanks, John.
This one really is outstanding in the polish and finishing.
Three cheers for OCD German gunmakers!

laoshi75 01-18-2008 02:58 PM

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Anna, Gentlemen,

just a stupid question about this (once again) beauty: is there any reason for the light difference of stamps places between these two photos ?
(BTW, I sometimes wonder what was exactly the "timing" of all stamps marking during all the steps of the pistol manufacture).

laoshi75 01-18-2008 02:58 PM

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StarOfTheWest 01-18-2008 03:11 PM

Interesting observation, Christian.
I have no idea of the manufacturing and proofmarking sequence used at Krieghoff, but hopefully another member can shed some light.
I have read something on this board about the Simson receiver proof application sequence, so maybe someone knows the answer to this.

John Sabato 01-18-2008 03:13 PM

The top photo was a pistol assembled and inspected on Wednesday and the photo you posted Christian is a pistol assembled and inspected on Monday morning after a long weekend... :D

Seriously, it just seems like the stamps were applied with a bit more care on the pistol presented by Anna.

John D. 01-18-2008 06:33 PM


Just - simply - stunning... An wonderful example... While I've owned/verified/handled a number of 1937 HKs - your's is simply terrific. As 1937 was one of the high production runs, typically - they are a bit more used than yours, but - based on the pics, what little wear there is, certainly appears as "honest" wear...

Also - Christian.. John is actually right (even though his reply was in jest with a Wed. HK ;) LOL JS!!! :) ) I've seen the proofs in various orders through 30 years of focusing on HKs.. Now - for "witness marks" - if ANYONE can make rhyme or reason out of that on HK production??!!! :eek:

Best to you!

John D.

StarOfTheWest 01-18-2008 08:22 PM

Thanks very much John.
And thanks for the bandwidth to show this collection to our members here.

Imperial Arms 01-18-2008 11:11 PM


Be careful with the French charm from Christian!! He is trying to get his hands on your collection (and maybe on you as well)!! I am surprised he did not send you additional flowers!

Great Krieghoff Luger!!


laoshi75 01-19-2008 06:32 AM

Albert !! :o

seriously, I am in love for Artillery Rigs. I had a heart attack when I saw photos of the collection of George Anderson. George has one of the greatest arty private collections in the world. I guess I will have an other heart attack soon when Anna opens her "two huge boxes full of conventional holsters and LP rigs"...
Also: John S...:) : what is the problem in the USA with the Monday mornings ?


LugerVern 01-19-2008 10:28 AM


Thank you so much for the clear pictures, this gun is a beauty and a good reference post. Not only will it cause many a table and computer key board to be ruined with salivation it has the added benefit of helping collectors who one day will buy their own HK.


StarOfTheWest 01-19-2008 11:03 AM

Thanks Vern,

This is why I am posting so many close ups of small parts and proofs.
I want folks to see what a good gun is supposed to look like.

And on the ones I have questions about, it helps the sharp eyed collectors here discern what is correct and what is not.

I appreciate all of you very much, and am grateful for the chance to share this collection with equally fanatic Luger people.

I don't show them to many in real life, for two reasons.
One, I am pretty paranoid about people knowing I own these and where I live, and two, very few folks have the discerning eyes to appreciate and understand what I might show them.
"Pearls before swine", so to speak.
So presenting my guns on this board is a delight for me as well.

Thanks for looking, and thank you all for comments and opinions.

A.Mifsin 01-19-2008 11:15 AM

A great luger Anna, thanks for sharing. I was wondering, while the trigger is numbered stamped with the last two digits of the serial number, the locking bold isn't, any reason why.

StarOfTheWest 01-19-2008 11:40 AM

Just looked, the takedown lever is indeed marked 01, but it is to the inside of the take down lever, above the checkered round.
Had to take it apart to get a good look.

A.Mifsin 01-19-2008 11:52 AM

Many Thanks for your trouble. At least now I know were to look when I buy my fist Krieghoff.:D

StarOfTheWest 01-19-2008 12:32 PM

Glad to help, Alfred, and good luck on finding that first Krieghoff.
The finish is so remarkable that it will stand out to you.
If you look closely, you can even see a distorted pic of *me*, taking the pics, in the mirror finish of that gun.

alvin 01-19-2008 12:46 PM

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Nice gun.

I noticed the finish of spring hook and trigger connector is swapped on another HK, P1184. I assume Anna's gun being correct.

Any comments?

StarOfTheWest 01-19-2008 12:55 PM

Well, on my minty one, that part is in the white, and has an E/2.
It appears in the pic you show, that the part has a 5 and is blued, whilst the gun is numbered 84, so I would give it the Hairy Eyeball for sure on that part.
Ach, I see that one is a P series.
Not the same model, things may be different.

A.Mifsin 01-20-2008 03:25 AM

And adding to that, Anna's spring hook is not numbered, but proofed stamped, while that other is numbered only without proof stamp. Am I correct ? since my eyes are not what they used too be :)
Those who have a Krieghoff can they state how the spring hook is marked, the see if there is a patern to marking the spring hook. Thank to All.

PS. Anna I tried to look you up in the photos, but I couldn't find your image as much as I tried :D

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