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tom collins 04-29-2002 06:01 PM

buying a "shooter"
 
if i buy a "shooter" and it's described as "matched", what should i expect to get?


if a part has been replaced and restamped, does it still fall under the "matched" description?




Ron Wood 04-29-2002 06:29 PM

Absolutely not...it must be an original part
 
properly numbered




tom collins 04-29-2002 07:09 PM

should a big name dealer...
 
be able to notice if a side plate has been filed down and restamped? and if so, should he not inform the buyer or is the fact that it's only a "cheap" $700 shooter that doesn't deserve his time for closer examination be a good enough excuse for not mentioning it?




Lonnie Zimmerman 04-29-2002 08:32 PM

Re: should a big name dealer...
 
Of course he should tell you!!!!


Lonnie




Orv Reichert 04-29-2002 08:48 PM

"shooter"
 
You can bet your butt he examined it carefully when he was BUYING it!




tom 04-29-2002 09:24 PM

Re: should a big name dealer...
 
Hi Guys,


Its very simple. There is fraud involved if someone (the Big Name dealer) knew, or "presumptively" should have known...


You can make a case like this stick in court and several "big name dealers" have had successful suits against them.


FWIW,


Tom

Not a dealer but a collector




MikeP 04-29-2002 09:26 PM

Re: "shooter"
 
As I have said before-some of these guys and the "big boys" as well will shove these things as far up you as you are willing to take them.


If you call them on a problem they usually have a "gosh! guess I missed that one" reply and will take it back-if you pay postage.


Somebody said I should take it easy on large volume dealers because it is an honest mistake considering their volumns-I say that is sycophancy at its worst.


A crook is a crook no matter how many lugers he has for sale.




TIMOTHY CANNEY 04-30-2002 12:11 PM

Re: should a big name dealer...
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO EXCUSE OTHER THAN TO MAKE A BUCK!! WHEN HE OR SHE IS DONE COLLECTING YOUR MONEY IT'S "CAVEAT EMPTOR".


TIM




TIMOTHY CANNEY 04-30-2002 12:13 PM

Re: buying a "shooter"
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT! NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS, I DON'T CARE WHO HE OR SHE IS!


TIM




TIMOTHY CANNEY 04-30-2002 12:15 PM

Re: should a big name dealer...
 
BUT HE OR SHE WON'T......AT LEAST UNTIL AFTER THEY HAVE YOUR MONEY....AND MABEY THEY WILL EVEN DENY IT'S WRONG AT ALL?


TIM






TIMOTHY CANNEY 04-30-2002 12:18 PM

Re: should a big name dealer...
 
IT'S FRAUD WITH ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. PLAIN, SIMPLE, AND WITHOUT ARGUEMENT. MONEY RETURNED PLUS INTEREST IS THE ONLY REMEDY.


TIM




TIMOTHY CANNEY 04-30-2002 12:20 PM

Re: "shooter"
 
ORV, RIGHT ON TARGET. HE OR SHE MOST CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BUY IT FROM YOU AT A FRACTION OF THE PRICE!!!!!!!


TIM




TIMOTHY CANNEY 04-30-2002 12:22 PM

Re: "shooter"
 
I'VE HAD ONE SHOVED, BELIEVE ME IT HURTS!!!!!!!!


TIM




dobk 05-03-2002 07:04 AM

Re: buying a "shooter"
 
Just curious but has anyone bought a Luger from a "big name dealer" that turned out to be worth more than you paid due to them missing something. I would bet the mistakes in their favor against the mistakes in your favor are 99 to 1.





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