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L.M.K. 26 Unit Markings

Is anyone familiar with the markings " L.M.K. 26" :confused: on a 1914 Erfurt Artillery Luger?

I have found the following possible explanation for a very similar unit marking of Joop van de Kant

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10-08-2004, 12:06 AM
L.M.K.72 = Leichte Munitions Kolonne Nr.72 n/A.
Source : H.R.von Stein, Munitionskolonnen und Trains 1914/18 in ZfH.

Klaus

http://luger.gunboards.com/archive/i...hp/t-2391.html

And what means Leichten-Munitions-Kolonnen (L.M.K.) :

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The Munitions Supply Columns

Initially the men of the Infanterie- and Artillerie-Munitions-Kolonnen were trained and supplied by the Feldartillerie, while the Füßartillerie formed its own Munitions-Kolonnen, the latter being under the command of the various Armeekorps. In addition to this, the Feldartillerie-Abteilungen and Füßartillerie-Bataillons at the front had their own Leichten-Munitions-Kolonnen.

In autumn 1916 the complicated system of Infantry and Artillery munitions columns for Active, Reserve and Landwehr units was discontinued and all columns were regrouped as "Munitions-Kolonnen neuer Art (new style)". Once the restructuring of the Army under Hindenburg and Ludendorff had taken place the "neuer Art" was discontinued and replaced by a central numbering system and 507 Munitions-Kolonnen were created to supply both the Infanterie and Feldartillerie .

At the beginning of 1917 the Leichte-Munitions-Kolonnen (Light munitions columns) were taken from their respective Feldartillerie units and renumbered centrally under Armee level command forming 785 columns for the Artillery. (Note: “Armee level”:Under the direct command of the Army they were attached to.) A third group, the Füßartillerie-Munitions-Kolonnen-Abteilungen and the Leichten-Füßartillerie-Munitions-Kolonnen were amalgamated as Armee level Füßartillerie-Munitions-Kolonnen, which for practical reasons (with the exception of eleven which stayed at Armee level) were later reassigned as Battery level columns when the Füßartillerie units became horse drawn and needed a more flexible supply chain.

http://www.kaiserscross.com/76001/76022.html

Here's a post-card featuring LEICHTE MUNITIONS KOLONNEN 209, (L.M.K. 209) APRIL 1917

..and one of L.M.K. 827

BTW, I also came across this Online Book: Historische Rang- und Stammliste des deutschen Heeres, Klaus von Bredow, Ernst von Wedel, Berlin: Scherl 1905. This book has a complete history of the German army, its staff and its units from before 1654 up to 1905. Also on-line at Preussischer Militargeschichte, where information is constantly added to complete the history up to 1914.
http://www.grosser-generalstab.de/index.html

Imperial German ID tag (Erkennungsmarken) Leichte Munition Kolone 1332

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/46...og-tags/page-3

some unit marked Lugers: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/60...perial-lugers/
1. 1915 DWM s/n 5303c with Regimental marking, 1.M.G.21.A., Maschinengewehr-(Scharfschutzen) Abteilung 21. Kompanie 1. all matching except magazine. Assigned to the 221 Inf Div.
2. 1916 DWM, all matching except mag, unit marked to the Machine Gun Troop 9 Company
3. 1910 DWM unit marked 142.R.M.G.77 part of the 142 Infantry Regt, 29th Div. A Baden Division.
4. 1915 DWM unit marked 181. (JR) 4. (company) Saxon unit
5. 1913 Erfurt unit marked 2nd Ersatz Machine Gun Company 9th Army Corps weapon no# 85

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Originally Posted by Maestro (Post 245646)

..and one of L.M.K. 827

The first soldier is holding an 1888 Commission 'artillery' carbine... :)

Those are some very nice looking unit marked Lugers. The marking on the L.M.K. gun is quite non-standard...I can't recall ever seeing a Luger marked in that location.

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 245653)

The first soldier is holding an 1888 Commission 'artillery' carbine... :)

Actually the fellow on the left and on the far right are both armed with KAR88s which were cavalry carbines. The Artillery carbine was exactly the same weapon but with a stacking hook added. That version was designated the GEW(ehr) 91. The GEW91 is a very rare weapon today.

What is the number of the 1915 dated 181. JR Luger, please. I know 2 other in the c- suffix range.

By the way- the unit stamp L.M.K. 26 is not according the regulation. The "L" should be "l" and as above mentioned is it on a very unusual location.
I will look through my holsters during the day. I am sure I have a correct holster for your Luger.

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Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 245699)

what is the number of the 1915 dated 181. Jr luger, please. I know 2 other in the c- suffix range.

sn 3881

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Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 245700)

By the way- the unit stamp L.M.K. 26 is not according the regulation. The "L" should be "l" and as above mentioned is it on a very unusual location.

perhaps it doesn't stand for Leichten-Munitions-Kolonnen. it would be nice to know if anyone else has this particular artillery from this unit.

I thougt I would have a holster for this Luger but it is one of the Munitions- Kolonne for the Reserve Infanterie Regiment 23

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Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 245719)

I thougt I would have a holster for this Luger but it is one of the Munitions- Kolonne for the Reserve Infanterie Regiment 23

Very nice! Thanks for sharing :cheers:

what would be the correct snail drum for this LP08? Type 1?

Apparently there were a number of different ways of abbreviating a title.
For example, depending on the source you are reading, Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment 203, could be listed as; R.I.R.203, Res.Inf.Regt. 203 or Res.I.R. 203.
http://www.trenchfighter.com/62801.html

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L.M.K. leichte Munitionskolonne

Correct for the Reserve- Infantry- Regiment 203 (it came in) would have been 203. R (script) (5. for the 5. Company and a smaller Arabic number for the weapon number).
It is still too dark to take a good picture of the page of the 1909 dated stamping order yet. Will do it later.
I have the complete order with 33 Deckblättern (with all additions)

a pic of the page of the order....