1913 dwm
 

Picked up 1913 DWM luger today. Took off both grips to clean surface rust off grip safety and a small spring fell out. Can't figure out how the spring goes or how to get the spring back in. A little help would be appreciated. A pic. of the correct way the spring fits would be nice. Thanks Leed709

There are a few possibilities, and a photo of the small spring that fell out would be very beneficial. If a photo is not possible give a detailed description, please.
dju

With few exceptions, the grip safety was gone after the 1906 model. Is this a small leaf spring that looks kinda like a comma? Or is it a coil? Comma may be the grip safe spring. Coil- trigger??? or it does not even belong, pics would really help here. Also, it may be the mag release button spring if it is a small leaf with an indent on one end.

Welcome.
Please start with complete pictures of what you have, so we can ID the luger. Then a picture with the left grip off.

You may find useful reference material in our forum's FAQ PDF document.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

1913 Commerical DWM Luger
 

Sorry, guys not set up for pic. It is a 1913 DWM commerical luger with grip safety. Cal. 30 luger sn# 356. All parts match. The spring that came out is a wire like clip that fits on the back of grip safety. It is about 1 inch long. I looked in the PDFof old models and it is item #25

How do you get to the date of 1913?
Commercial lugers are not dated.
Serial number 356 would be much earlier.

The grip safety spring fits in a "slot" on the frame and engages a boss on the back side of the safety.

Can someone enlighten me; Did 1913 P08's have grip safeties?
dju

Reasonably certain that one of the Imperial German Government’s requirements for adoption of both the P.04 and the P.08 was the elimination of the grip safety.

Generally speaking, no. There is a very scarce variant, the "1913 Commercial", that has a grip safety and a stock lug in around the 70XXX-71XXX serial number range.
Ron

Does it look like part number 28 on the Model 1908 P,08 parts page?

If so that is a flat leaf spring that keeps the magazine catch in place.

You would be wrong about the Naval P04, it had a grip safety until 1916, or what collectors call the "1914 Navy".

Good to know, can’t say that I have seen any Navies dated before 1916 or that weren’t interwar commercial navies.

If it were the mag release spring, the mag release would fall or push out easily. If it's the grip safety spring, the grip safety's main body would flop around/not rise from the grip frame.

thanks, Finally figured it out. Spring in place the right way and grip safety works great. I'm taking pic. as I go along cleaning this gun. I will try to learn to post pic as soon as I finish cleaning it.

1913 Commerical DWM Luger
 

Mr. Don Voigt asked how I came up with the date 1913 and Sn# 356. On top of receiver is the date 1913. The Sn#356 is stamped on front under the barrel also there is a small a stamped under Sn.

04 navy- grip safe
06 navy- grip safe
08 Navy- no grip safe.
dated navy- no grip safe

Please do post photos as it becomes possible.
Thanks!
dju

Then it is not a commercial luger, and the serial number is 356a (the suffix is part of the serial number); but the pistol must be a constructed/re-numbered one.

Hi Leland,
Is the top half the same length as the frame or is it perhaps slightly shorter? You have a mixed parts gun for sure, pictures would be a great help.
Regards, Norm