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K date Kriegsmarine
I have been given the oportunity to purchase a 100% condition K date Kreigsmarine Luger complete with correct mags and Holster and tools.
I have no idea what so ever of what it would be worth! Can anyone advise please........! Regards |
3-4-$5000 and up U.S. K dates are extremly hard to find and a KM would be icing on the kake. So many questions, so little time. Holster KM marked? Tool marked? Condition? KM marking on pistol? Where and what? Photo's ?Mags match? Could be an $8000 pistol. More info! Jerry Burney
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If I had to give an estimate, I would say between $10k-$15k. I would definitely like to see an image of the near mint KM rig if you have an opportunity to photograph it.
Good luck, Albert |
Thanks Guys,
After my investment in the Borchardt, the offer of this gun is very untimely. Yes to all the questions, matching mags, correct holster, correct tool, correct cleaning rod. I will post some photos. If I dont buy it, one of you guys might. It is in the USA. Kind wishes Murray |
I purchased a KM K-Date rig 2 years ago. Had 2 matching mags and holster SN to pistol. It was a 5 figure price....
Tom A. |
I purchased my K-date Navy at least 8 years ago and it was over $4000 then. At that time there was only approximately 12 documented. There are a lot of totally fake K-dates and a lot of fake K-date Navies also. A complete rig with two matching magazines is almost too good to be true. I'd check this out very well before purchasing and find out what history I could on it. A gun like that had to be known and someone will have some information on it. --- Bill
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Gun was from a vet's widow's estate. He was a career Navy man. There was a bunch of other souvenirs but I was only interested in the pistol. It was offered to me for less by the old woman's daughter, but I told her that I insisted on paying a "fair" price.
Sometimes a blind pig finds an acorn. Tom A. |
Hi Tom,
The way you acquired yours is the best way, but seldom found these days. Mine came from the Tom Knox collection. In reference to the gun that "Lugers down under" is looking at, there should be some history on it, and someone should know something about it. A complete K-date Navy with 2 matching magazines just doesn't stay hidden with no one remembering it, unless it was like your Luger and a vet still had it. I know of only 2 K-date Lugers with 2 matching magazines, yours makes 3, and I remember who has them and roughly what the serial numbers are, and other collectors remember these things also. Anyway, if the above rig is correct it is a real find. -- Bill |
I have made some more inquiries and the responce is as follow:
Quote. This luger came from Florida. I purchased it from a wealthy collector here in Minnesota who lives there in the winter, summers in a VERY affluent part of Minnesota. He has been a serious colllector for a long, long, time. He buys and sells only top quality pieces. His friend owns and operates a WWII collector's business in the Naples, Florida area. They both are on the lookout for quality pieces every day. To put it simply, they do this for a living, and have done so, for a long time. As you are probably aware, a lot of retires live in Florida, and these WWII vets are dying off at a rate of about 1,000 per day. I guess the world's loss is a collector's gain. I appreciate your genuine concern regarding the authenticity of this piece. I would feel the same way. Also, understand, I KNOW what I've got. And am willing to sit on it for the right price. I get the feeling that this item is out side my current bank account having just bought the Borchardt . I will post some photos and then leave it to you guys. |
LDU, you might check with Pete Ebrink on that Minnesota - Naples Florida connection. He had some information a couple of weeks ago and I don't remember if that was the same locus of operation.
That Borchardt may be doing you a favor. |
Murray, Minnesota is a very nice place; good pheassant hunting and some huns also. The women are all of Norwegian and German stock and can step across a four strand barbed wire fence with ease. It's cold but nice but neither as cold nor as nice as North Dakota.
Another thing about Minnesota and Lugers is that there is a notorious Luger dealer/counterfeiter there. This is not the case with North Dakota also North Dakota hase sharp tailed grouse and some sage grouse. A much better place. I have no interest in a K date. Email me the name of the dealer and I'll tell you if you have wandered into a minefield. |
To ampliyfy my pal George,
If the gun came out of Minnesota, I'd be VERY AFRAID. Tom A |
Hi Heinz,
The posting I was involved with a couple of weeks ago had to do with a luger vendor that lives in Michigan and moves to Florida for the winter...G&G Relics...Gil Hoffman...one of our LF members was concerned when he lost track of Gill during his seasonal move...no connection to the state of MN... http://www.ggrelics.com/ Regards, Pete...:typing: |
Thanks Pete,
I think I confused the Ellis/Zomber posting you did with something else I heard from Minnesota. The story Murray had about the expert dealers sounded a little like one of the stories associated with that sad affair Certainly did not mean to associate Gil Hoffman with that crowd! |
Anyone know where in Florida the Harvey Branch-family operated/operates from...? Is it Naples ???
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Pete,
Last I heard it was Jacksonville. Tom A |
Which is pretty close to Naples as I recall. if that is relevant.
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WOW Murray! It's a beauty. I cannot critique it as I know nothing about these except I would love to have one. I will be interested to see what the experts say about it.
I like the photo of your complaint department! Jerry Burney |
What a comfortable looking armchair... I have never seen one before that had a place to rest your hands :D
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