Aimco Current Product Line Overview...
 

I did get a response from Mr. Romo with a promise to send a brochure. As I've seen on this forum he does tend to take a while. In the interest of getting a quick overview can anyone summarize Aimco's current product lineup and approxinate costs? In general I'm intersted in a 9mm shooter, and need to decide on an "original" shooter vs waiting for the Aimco info.
Thanks mucho...

Hi,

Same problem here...
It seems that Aimco can improve massively on sales of lugers if they get their PR going...

Definitely! I saw a letter to the editor in a gun rag asking where they could buy a stainless steel Luger. The answer was that the stainless luger was out of production. This sort of thing is not helping AIMCO's cause.

I know that Mr. Romo has little time to spend on his computer... but perhaps one of you that is in touch with him should copy this message thread and make sure he reads it... I would hate for the last luger production line in the world to go under because they didn't spend enough time advertising... :(

I don't recall if he is Lugerforum member... if he is not, he should be...

When I bought mine in January, the dealer said it was the last of its kind and that you couldn't get them anymore. Almost believable, as I have been to half dozen gun shows and have yet to see another one, used even...

Johnny,

Jerry.B's initial post seems to contradict what your dealer told you...

There is not a great demand for this gun simply because many folks do not like stainless steel, and as much as we all love the design of the Luger, it simply isn't state of the art for a personal defense gun. It's appeal is primarily historical. I hope AIMCO never decides to stop production...

He has told several members of plans to produce a .45 caliber model in the next year or so... these should have some brisk sales in the first few months... I don't know many Luger enthusiasts that wouldn't want one...

I have been in contact with Mr. Romo recently and am about to place an order for a 4.75 inch .30cal with grip safety and dished toggles. He is definitely still in business and one of our members in Texas sees him regularly at some shows there. It would be nice if the guns were at least listed in the annual catalogue type issues of the magazines. The answer in the magazine just shows that they are not the final work on some things.

When I send the check I will ask for a complete listing of the current line and prices. The price sheet that I have is a couple of years old so I do not know how accurate it is.

I have invited him to join our little group but so far it looks like he has not done so. I could even understand if he were to use a nick-name.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by John Sabato:
<strong>I know that Mr. Romo has little time to spend on his computer... but perhaps one of you that is in touch with him should copy this message thread and make sure he reads it... I would hate for the last luger production line in the world to go under because they didn't spend enough time advertising... :(

I don't recall if he is Lugerforum member... if he is not, he should be...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">JUDGING FROM THIS FORUM THERE ARE POTENTIAL CUSTOERS CHASING HIM. HE DOESN'T SEEM TO NEED TO ADVERTISE, JUST RESPOND.

All,
In fairness to AIMCO and Mr Romo, whom I have met and assess as a complete gentleman and savvy entrepreneur,as CEO of a manufacturing operation, he is driven by economic laws of business and the market place. What I mean by this is that in order for his company to amortize the fixed costs of a production run, he must have sales of X units with a margin of Y% profit.

If his projections of sales don't approach several times the total membership of the forum, then it is simply not cost effective to start a production line.

History has proven through Mauser GmbH, Mitchell, Stoeger and possibly AIMCO, that there simply is not sufficient demand to warrant new production of our beloved toggle top.

All in all, that is the beauty of the system and our lovely pistols: they ain't makin' no more 'cause the ones that were made were damn near hand made, and no body can do that any more for under $5K or so.

I hope I don't live long enough to see a McLuger.

Tom A.

Hi,

Well, all in all this doesn't change my point of view: I want one.... :)

But seriously, it would be nice to find some local who can act as a liason between Aimco and interested prospects like me.

When (then) Interarmco was considering asking Mauser resume production of the Luger, the "paper demand" was fantastic. Everyone wanted a new Luger. First production was of the Swiss type. The "paper demand" said that was no good, that the P.08 was what should be made. So the tooling was changed at considerable expense. Then the "paper demand" said the new guns were not "historical", and not even worth considering. The (pardon me if I hit too close to home) "Luger snobs" would not even consider touching a gun that had not been owned by at least a Field Marschal and preferably Hitler himself or at least Georg Luger. So they ran the guns down and told everyone not to buy them as they were worthless junk.

End of a good idea. I doubt things have changed enough to make new Luger production viable.

Jim

The stainless steel guns are still in production. However there is an update. AIMCO has changed its name to Orimar Firearms Manufacturing. The email from Mr. Romo said that the change was due to the close association in many minds between AIMCO and Stoeger. Also the new guns will have OFM stamped on the front toggle link.

In price, they are between a shooter grade and a new in box from the 1970's so they do offer an alternative for a good shooting gun.

In about a week, I hope to have some scans of one with a .30cal 4.75 inch barrel and dished toggles and hopefully a new price list.

Alright!!! Another variation, just what the Stainless version needs, a variety like the orginals have...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Johnny C. Kitchens:
<strong>Alright!!! Another variation, just what the Stainless version needs, a variety like the orginals have...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">OK Johnny - this post has me..........

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It would be nice to see an 'OFM' logo, closely resembling the 'DWM' logo in appearance :)

I'd love to get a fresh 1906-type grip safety thingy on which I can set the sights to my not-so-fanastic eyes. I'd hate to (and won't) mess around with the front sight on my M11 Dutch luger. It's a historic piece and not well suited for competition use.

If anyone speaks to mr. Romo, do a
'pretty please with sugar on top' for me, will you?

Steve, since the new firm will be called Orimar Firearms Manufacturing and will sever ties with STOEGER will the new firearms be called a "Luger" or ??? Doesnt Stoeger OWN the name Luger when it comes to firearms? Just curious

No verification, but I read that Beretta has acquired Stoeger...

As far as I know, Stoeger owns the name Luger in this country as far as guns go. The one that I have is officially called an "American Eagle" and is so stamped on the gun. The parts list is labeled "P-08 American Eagle". So I supose the name is American Eagle. I will let everyone know when my new one arrives.

The grip safety wraps around the entire frame rather than one side as on the 1906 that I have.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Thor:
<strong>Steve, since the new firm will be called Orimar Firearms Manufacturing and will sever ties with STOEGER will the new firearms be called a "Luger" or ??? Doesnt Stoeger OWN the name Luger when it comes to firearms? Just curious</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Considering how many years that the P-08 has come to be known generically as "Luger" in the US, and Stoeger having never acted to defend their property, I suspect that, if it ever came to trial, "Luger" would be deemed to have passed into the public domain.

--Dwight

The former AIMCO link on our Links & Resources page of Lugerforum.com has been updated to reflect this new company name...

Orimar Firearms Manufacturing

Thanks for letting us know.

Steve,
Would you expand on your statement: <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />
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ViggoG

Viggo I don't have any photos that illustrate this, But I believe the answer to your question is YES... but I think that the piece of channel on the right side only disappears under the grips and serves no other purpose other than helping to prevent pinching the shooter's hand.

Perhaps Steve will know for sure.

John is correct in his description.

Steve

Thank you Steve!

Gents & Ladies (if there are any here...),

I agree with the remark about 'Luger snobs' previously mentioned. But I will say that the Mauser Parabellums were far, far better quality manufacture than any other postwar Luger I've seen, w/ all due respect to the Texas made ones of Mr. Romo.

Despite the cost-cutting measures undertaken on the Mauser-P's, they were / are fine shooters.

FTR, what is a NIB (Mauser-P) 1929 Swiss pattern, 4" - 9mm worth to you folks?

The SOB, piece of dung, flaky dealer pinched the OEM manual & target when new, the young owner did not know it even CAME w/ a manual (bought in July 1978) until encountering a used one years later w/ factory target & manual. But the box is there, cleaning rod & 2 mags. Unfired.

Just curious, said I'd ask here.

Danke schoen

Correction,

When I said:

"Gents & Ladies (if there are any here...),"

I was referring to 'If There Were Any Female Forum members' as in women folk. 'If...' meant only that I was not aware of any women herein & I did not mean to exclude any.

After reading my post I thought it may have come across as flippant, which is never my intent. Probably are gents here aplenty, myself included.

Keith,

We do indeed have a few dozen female members... but they don't comment as often as the guys...

Even if we didn't have female members, the no flame rule and the requirement for civil language would still be in force. There is never an excuse for being rude... or crude.

This is a safe place to visit even if your 8 year old daughter or granddaughter who can read is sitting on your lap as you are reading... and it will be as long as this forum exists--which I intend to be as long as I am breathing :)

I take my admin duties VERY seriously. In the five+ years that this forum has existed, I can only recall a half dozen or so that have been banned for rude conduct.

Enjoy your visits with us.

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Those places I can surf late at night after all are in bed... :D

Ed

For some prices on NIB Mauser Interarms guns, go to the Links and Resources tab to the left and then go to Simpsons. He has several listed on his site in the $900 to $1300 range.