Suffix's
 

I was wondering if others have digital pictures of their suffix's? If I can get some from you, I have started a webpage that has suffixes on it. Provide me with a nice clear photo of the suffix, what year and type of gun it came from. If there is a suffix on the barrel or magazine, inlcude that also, and state it is a barrel or magazine.

I know that they look different, from different years, but here are three that I was able to take pictures of:

A from a 1914 DWM
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/1914DWMA.jpg
R from an Alphabet (1928) DWM
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/1928DWMR.jpg
Y from a 1942 Banner
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/1941BannerY.jpg

Ed

Ed, that's a darned good idea! We have always looked at printed guides, but I have never seen a "photo" alphabet. Of course there will be some variations of the same letter, but hopefully eventually you can corral the majority of them. Perhaps folks could contribute good clear images, then they could be manipulated with a graphics program to make them all the correct relative size and made into a guide for beginners (and old fogies too). After that perhaps start compiling a photo guide for proof marks. Look out Costanzo, we have a new career in the making!

Thanks Ron, if people post here or send me pictures, I will size, then compile them into an alphabet sheet. If they could also say what year and who made the markings, it might make more sense.

I personnaly have trouble with some of the letters, and I thought this might be a good way to help me and others, actually see the letters.

Ed

Hey guys (and gals), what a great idea. If I ever get a digital camera, I'll contribute!! Go git em Eduard!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Frank, all you need is a flat-bed scanner, thats how I did the batch above.

--Dwight

Thanks!

Dwight, appreciate the pictures and text! thanks!!

Ed

Ed,

GREAT IDEA :) , and I also must concur with you that the maker and the presumed year of production must be used for identification of each photo, There should also be a division on the page between suffixes used on frames, barrels and magazines... otherwise it will just be a hodgepodge of photos. This could turn into a great library that would be unmatched by any current Luger reference book!

You do the dirty work (thank God) and I will be glad to create a new "suffix" page to go under "technical information" to display your HTML pages and the photos...

Just let me know when you have a "first draft" and we will put it up... you can always edit it to keep it current as photos are supplied...

We could make it look something along the lines of the Rogues Gallery pages...multiple rows and columns and we can have one web page for each character that is linked from the 'master' page where you select the character you are looking for...I can send you the blank format to start with if you like. Let me know.

U suffix from 1937 S/42 Mauser Luger http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/1937Suffix.JPG
just after they switched to Salt bluing (after T block)

Hi

Great topic.

I have pics of my frame and the matching magazine, with the suffix e.

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/eframe.jpg
G date S/42 marked Luger.

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/emagazine.jpg
Matching magazine.

Henrik Sommer
Denmark

Thanks Henrik;

As I get magazine or barrel suffixes, I will add them to another section. As I wouldn't want to hodge podge for ole John S :D

{{Thanks Frank for e-mailing me those suffixes :) }}

Yowwwza...! A terrific idea!!! I'll send mine up in a bit!

Good on you Ed..!!!!

Thanks, I have had really nice response so far from this forum. Although just a smattering, if you count all the Lugers in this forum and others :D . Even if someone just has one suffix to add, that is great! Just e-mail them to the house :)

And all serial numbers will NOT show, just the suffix, :)

{{and if you have a non-matching, all the better, because stamping / marking is stamping / marking and has the same descriptive value!!}}

Ed mailto:66mustang@palouse.com66mustang@palouse.com</a>

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/x.jpg
"X" BYF 41

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/y.jpg
"Y"1942 Banner Police

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/n.jpg
"N" 1920 Commercial

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/g.jpg
"G" BYF 42

I have a few more - I'll try to add those in a bit....

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/ia.jpg
I Unit Marked 1916 DWM

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/i.jpg
I Non unit marked 1916 DWM

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/f.jpg
F Unit Marked 1918 DWM

Hmmm.... I have a few more, too.... I'll try posting them soon...

Thanks, will add to the collection, :)

Well - I'd post the Kriegs - but "them damned Lugers ain't got no suffix thingys" :) :D

I'll try to post some others tomorrow for your collection, OK?

Good thread Ed..!!!

So, let me get some feedback on this: Suffixes Webpage

As I get more pictures, I will add them. Don't mind them from slightly different angles, but right now, I will post any pictures I get. I can place full name on the "thank you" at the bottom if you want, or pull it.

I figure 5 or 6 of each suffix?

Then will add the magazine and barrel pages.
Suffixes Webpage

Ed

Ed, it looks great! You have obviously left room for growth in variations and the cataloging is aesthetic and functional... If it is no problem for you to host it, then it would be more convenient for you to keep it updated, but when you think that there are enough examples, and inputs start to slow down we can move the pages and associated graphics to the Lugerforum server at your convenience.

In the meantime, I will create a link on the Technical Info pages to your index to accompany the suffix information already there!

It might be interesting to put one of those free counters on the page to see how many hits it gets.

Keep up the good work!

I cant see the pictures in your folder Ed.

Thor, it should act just like a webpage, if you click on the webpage above, then go through each page, it should bring them up?

What are you seeing or can't see?

Ed

empty boxes where the thumbnails should be

Empty boxes on all? Or where I haven't gotten pics yet?

There are lots of blanks, mainly because I haven't gotten all the pics I'd like or do the pics show up as blank (no pic)?

I see the page, the thumbnails are all empty except a rectangle outline. Send me your email and I will take a picture of what I see.

Ed -

Just found your "web page" for the suffix pictures.

What a great idea ! ! !

This is a far better reference than any printed set of lower script letters.

Thanks,
Luke

Thanks Luke, it was something I had thought about a while ago, then just did it.

As you can see, still missing suffixes, but the response has been good, so I imagine we will fill those holes!

Ed

I still need "c" "L" "m" "p" "s" "w" or "z" suffixes, and have only one for several others. To get a good representation, I think you need at least five or six of each letter.

If you can scan in or take pictures of these needed suffixes, that would be great.

Ed

Ed -

I have a lower case script "p" from my first Luger, a 1941 byf. When I first bought the Luger I thought it was "n" but several members helped me determine that it was a "p" instead.

It is located at:

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/...rom1941byf.jpg

Luke

If that is a "P", then a photo essay is important, because I would not think that was a "P"!

We will see if we can drum up a few other "p"'s and compare them, :)

Thanks Luke, Ed

Ed, it's a "P". That one is tough, but there are enough references around that verifies it (Costanzo and G�¶rtz to name two).

I believed Luke, it is just wild looking! I must have missed or more likely forgotton the posting on the "P".

Frank any P's in your corral of Lugers for a comparassion?

And this is kind of fun, learning a lot doing this, :)

Ed

The Z is the hardest script I have ever had to identify! I had a late Mauser (sold it to Sid Gariss) and that sucker had me stumped for a while.

Edward, I have the 40 42 code Luger that Thor was talking about, I just do not have a way of getting a photo for you. I will see if I can find someone with a digital camera and try to get it to you. The only place that I can get to a flat bed scanner is at work. My boss is already a little worried that I catch up with the forum at lunch time and I do not think that it would be a good idea to show up at work with it. :D I will see what I can do. The set up you created is very nice. Thanks for the hard work and effort. Thor, I figured you would remember that z. It did take a while to figure that one out.
Sid.

OT Sid, drop me an email at Thor340@aol.com I lost your phone number. Did you go to the funeral today? <img border="0" alt="[offtopic]" title="" src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" />

Ed,
* FWIW - did some Forum browsing & came up with:
(1) P.08 Military Category: Hugh(Member #15) posted his 1936, S/42 with a good photo of his "n" block pistol and mag. If he'd concur to its use, it would make a good counterpoint to the "p" suffix photo. Thread title was "They come in pairs" started 2/27/03.
(2) Same category: John F.(Member #766) had a "q" block 41/byf posted. Interesting cause a DDR "X" had been super-imposed in the near vacinity. With John F.'s concurrence, we have a "q"
(3) "Navy Lugers" Category: John F. (Member #766) also had a "z" block 1939/42 Navy posted in the thread "Mauser 42 Kriegsmarine Marked Luger" started 1/7/03. Little blurry; but with John F.'s concurrence & a little cropping we may have a "z" pistol picture to include.
(4) BTW; the same Navy post had Hugh offer a single pic containing 3 Mauser Military mags from the "x", "p", & "v" blocks. I believe these are 1937-S/42, probably a 1939/42, and another later 1939/42 respectively.
(5) "New Member Forum" category: Ted G (Member #819) had a 1914 with a "b" block picture. Thread titled "Second round" & started 1/01/03.
(6) "P.08 Commercial" Category: Kidvett posted a 1920 commercial (Weimar Alpha-DWM) with great "n" block frame pics. If the barrel's "n" doesn't start a war with Luke's "p" above, there is a Weimar DWM 'n" block pic. with Kidvett's concurrence. Thread titled "No Export 1920 Commercial" started 3/12/03.
* Hope this helps.
WR

Thanks WR, will go there and copy these, and ask permission prior to posting on my website!

I appreciate it!!

Ed

Here is my byf 42 "g" script... http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/byf42g.jpg