1921 DWM Baby Luger
 

Just finished the metal prep on this one. It will go to the engraver who has a plan to do a full engraving on it. I will do the final rust blue/fire blue/strawing on it when it returns. I have NO idea what is planned for the engraving embelishments. 2 & 5/8" 9mm Barrel. Built by Neil Keller (Hub) and final grips will be by Hugh Clark.
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Here is the link to the engraver that is doing the work.
Brian Powley Engraving

Got this note from the above engraver today that will be cutting on the baby Luger!
"I'm engraving the APG Presentation gun for President George W. Bush. " What the heck is APG?

Ted...Could it be something along the lines of the "American Pistolsmiths Guild?"

I am trying to give the engraver some ideas on the Luger engraving without getting in his way. If you have any pictures of Engraved Lugers please either send me a link to the picture or email it to me at Thor340@aol.com ! I already have a couple from Ralph's place and the one from Lugers at Random (LAR)(1920 Commercial). I have Still's books and LAR and Harry Jones Luger Variations book, MultiNational Pistol. I dont have Benders book. I also dont have a real clear picture of the Goehring Luger. Thanks!

Hi Ted! Looks nice! What gives the finished unit that tan color??? is that some type of metal prep, like bead blasting..or chemical prep?? Or is it just the way the light hits it?? Looks nice just like it is! Best to you, til...lat'r...GT

Ted,
* Trust you've seen pics of HG's S/N 16999 on page 9 of the Member's Gallery.
Bob

Just the light GT, it is oiled white steel. RockinWR, that was the Goehring Luger I was referring to in my post. I think that is a slightly better pic than the one I have, thanks.

The APG does stand for American Pistolsmiths Guild and yes the engraver doing the Baby Luger is engraving a Presention 1911 for the present President, G.W. Bush. I was lucky enough to be selected as on of the 6 contributing pistolsmiths on this project and yes it was nerve racking as well as rewarding.
The Baby that Thor is finishing will be the APG's raffle gun for 2005 and and the raffle tickets will be available after the NRA show in April if any of the Forum members are interested. Will post the info on the forum if that is permissable.

Neil

Quite permissible :) I also request that you do a proper photo essay on the completed gun for permanent display in the gallery.

I am currently doing some experiments on rust bluing over some gold inlayed steel. The engraver, Brian Powley sent me a steel plate with a gold inlayed DUCK on it. So far so good. The gold has to be lightly hammered into the recess so it might mar the bluing up so after bluing makes sense. QUACK!!!!!!!!

I was in Texas recently and had the oportunity to meet with Hugh and we picked out a set of grips for the Baby. It should be a real choice addition to anybody's collection and as for myself I have started on a mate to it. Of course it will be engraved slightly different to assure the 1st one is one of a kind. BTW, Hugh looks just like his picture and what a great couple he and his wife are.
Neil

Just started on a another Baby Luger for Hub at Kustom Ballistics, a 1915 DWM came in today! Wow, he is doing a good job on these! He is producing them for folks, see his website at Neil Keller (HUB)-Kustom Ballistics Website Link-CLICK HERE
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Thor:
<strong>I am currently doing some experiments on rust bluing over some gold inlayed steel...etc.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Thor,

When I did some research into the topic a year or so ago I was informed by an engraver that that was how it was done--gold first, then blue.

--Dwight

We really enjoyed the visit with Neil and His wife. Too bad we didn't have more time. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a second 22/30 caliber Luger just around the corner!!
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In the current American Handgunner issue, there is a two page article highlighting the engraved 2004 APG raffle gun of the year. This is a beautiful Browning High Power.

Just to let everyone know, Brian Powley is currently engraving and doing some gold inlay on this pretty little Luger. I am thinking it may be completely finished by end of July-mid August of this year. This is the 2005 APG Raffle gun that will be featured in the American Handgunner Magazine sometime next spring.

Ted, Please don't call these cut down PO8s a M1921. They were much smaller and only 2 each were made in 32acp and 380. If you want to see some excellent examples of original prewar engraving I would recommend Rankin's "Walther" book Vol 2. In recognition of "Texas Hugh's" contribution for another Texan, I'd recommend engraving an Armidillo rather than a duck. Th

The chamber date is 1921, its a small Luger, yes I know the real babys are 32 and 380 but that's what Neil calls them so it seems fitting to call them that. Hugh calls them that, Tom Armstrong calls them that, I call them that. The jest of your post is really lost on me Tom.

Ted, I'm serious about the Armadillo engraving, no joke. GHWB is probably a down home roadkill shooter, like some of the other Texans on this forum. TH

Haven't been her for long time! Seems that every one is now re-inventing Georges Baby Luger. I have seen and handled 2 of the 3 known GL Babies some years ago! Not a big secret. Even Martz took credit for this and did very little of of the work. Not a big deal. I built first Baby more than 10 years ago. Have built 14 down thu the years as hobby. Retired now, but have a baby carbine with Manlicher full lenth forearm(16"bl) about 80% complete under construction for Me. No big accomplishment---just want new guys to know that some of us old Luger guys have been doing it for some years and that the "bring and brag" forum is not representive of the past 40 years. I was never was interested in being published in G&A or other publications. Just enjoyed making 14 owners of Baby Luger re-creations happy!

The first cut-down Babies that I'm familiar with, were made in the 1970s in Calif. by W. Dorflinger. He taught John Martz the luger basics. TH

I just received the 2005 Baby Luger back from Brian Powley engravers and I must say I am very excited about this pistol. Lots of engraving done very tastefully. Quite a bit of Gold inlay also. I have half a dozen pre blue pictures. Please email me at Thor340@aol.com if you would like to see them. I will email them to you.

Okay, pictures are being emailed today to those that asked for them.

Well I might as well jump in here. I have been asked by the Ameican Pistolsmith's Guild to produce the case for 2005 raffle gun. The case (with APG Logo laser engraved on the lid) has now been produced and delivered. I look forward to seeing it complete with Luger. Here is a shot of the case lid...

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Dok
Center Custom Cases

Good to hear from you Dok! Looks like you have survived all the hurricanes down your way... next time one passes near Burmuda, would you mind directing it SOUTH instead of at the USA :D

A really nice lookin' case Dok! For all the new folks who haven't been around long enough to know...
http://www.lugerforum.com/images/LCenter.jpg Dok is our Webmaster Emeritus... and the creator of fine pistol cases as evidenced above. Check out his website by clicking on the link in his post.

Let's hear from you more often Dok... Gonna be passing through Virginia anytime soon? I think I owe you a Steak Sandwich Lunch?

Hi John,

Next time I'm down that way, I'll hold you to that steak sandwich lunch. Should be by there in the not too distant future. Look forward to seeing you again.

Dok

Well the Baby (if I may call it that) for the APG raffle is done and has been in the hands of Ichiro Nagata who takes all the beautiful pictures for American Handgunner Magazine. I have not seen the pictures but am suspose to get a disc copy of them and as soon as IO get it and the OK from them I will see that they get posted. Ted, Brian, Hugh and Les did a great job and I would be hard pressed to believe that most of the forum members would not want a chance at this gem.
The gun has been returned and I know I am going to have a hard time giving it up and yes I am going to purchase a few tickets myself.

Neil