rare one?
 

http://www.hermann-historica.com/auk...s/lot/2361.htm

rk

This is a Finnish M/23 (basically DWM commercial M/20)rebarreled with Finnish Tikkakoski barrel. The 'Lentokonetehdas' means Aeroplane Factory; No Finnish Army 'SA' stamp visible. Quite a rare one.

Bob Simpson has a similar rig FS.

Tom A.

Very interesting Luger. Wish I could read the text.

Interesting Front sight blade! I have seen this documented in Costanzo's WOL book before. http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/finsight.jpg

Hello Luke,

John S. had posted this translation link awhile back.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn

It is not 100% accruate, but it gives you an idea. It really helps if you are a "language dummy", like I am...

You just "cut & paste" the text you want to translate, drop it into the translation "box" and choose your languages...

Here is the translation about this luger :

DWM (BKIW) pistol 08, Air Force Kal. 7.65 Para, No. number equal 6216h.. The case brightly, on the front joint the DWM Logo. Rh German military acceptance. Left at the framework two-line bez. "LENTOKONETEHDAS - KL.No. 3128"("aircraft factory"). Run with geae. Grain in Finland replaces. Original, nearly completely received burnishing with light stretcher traces at run and cover plate. Small articles yellow started. Easily damages centralbrown grip caps (left outbreak, RH. Pressure point.) Good nickel plated magazine with timber flooring o.Nr. Centralbrown pistol bag with thorn buckle and Schluesseltaeschchen, finery stick mounting plate beside the magazine bag, out finn. Manufacturing. Manufacturer embossing not readably. Under the cover riveted brass plaque with "3128". A very rare collecting tank weapon! Condition: II euro 2.000,00

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the translation. Would sure love to see the gun.

Luke

Don't forget Terry, that us GUYS only get to use HALF of that grey gooey stuff... so that explains why we are confused all the time... :D

Tac Thank you very much!!

Dankeshoen fruend!

Tom Armstrong: I do not know what the Euro is quiet worth. But Simpson has his mismatched Finn for sale at $5995.00. Is it possible this could be a good buy? What do you think. SAM See you in Louisville.

sambuscami:
For general purposes, consider a Euro as parity for a greenback. There may be a slight difference, one way or another, as the EU quakes in their appeasement-driven economies, but the difference is insignificant.

Will buy you a brewski in Louisville, my friend.

Tom A.

Sam,
personally, I don't think that a mismatched ANYTHING is worth six grand.
Big Norm

Hi,

if anyone finds a text in german I would be glad to help you. I'm a native german speaker, but my english is far away from beeing perfect.

Radex

Thank you Radex!

You speak/write in English far better then most of us speak/write in German. We look forward to many more posts from you!

Welcome to the Forum! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Hey another German! I am from a town near Nuremberg.. Wellcome! Of course I would be glad to help you with translations, too.. Send me a message! (But my English is horrible!)

Hey here is the next german boy.

Here the right german words from tacfoley�´s list:

BeschuÃ??amt proof-house
DurchmeÃ??er (or Durchmesser) diameter
EinzelschuÃ?? single-shot
Ersten Weltkrieg (or Erster Weltkrieg) WW1
Hinteren Knebel (or hinterer Knebel) rear toggle
Kugel bullet
Kugellager breech
Perlmutt mother-of-pearl
SchuÃ??leistung shooting performance
Sehr gebraucht[e] well-used
Vordere[e] Knebel front or leading toggle
Waffenamt armaments bureau
Z�¼ndh�¼tchen primer
Zuverl�¤�?ig (or Zuverl�¤ssig) reliable
Zweiten Weltkrieg (or Zweiter Weltkrieg) WW2

I hope it helps.

Me english is very bad, but my german ist good! ;-)

Greetings Gustav

Good to see the German community growing.
Juergen
Giessen area, approx. 45 mi. north of Frankfurt

Quit apoligizing. You will do better than we can. Glad you are here, thanks for the help and the offers. But don't be surprised when someone send you something like a dictionary with a request for translation.

rk

No problem as long as time allows.

Small note. The letter that looks sort like a "B" is the German single letter for "ss". So what looks like "EinzelschuB" is really "Einzelschuss" (single shot), and is spelled that way by those without access to a German language word processor or typewriter.
(I can't reproduce the letter here or do umlauts either.)

Jim

Jim,
You can reproduce Umlauts by building a small dictionary of words* that have the umlauts that you require and copy and paste the entire word or just the single letter that you wish to replace.
Go to some of the dual language Web Pages and copy and paste yourself anything that you wish.
Its slow but it works.
* keep it stored in your Word Document files.
ViggoG

For Special Characters,
hold down on the "Alt" key
and enter the number.
("Num Lock" on and use
number key pad, the top
row numbers on the keyboard
wonâ??t work).
�¤ 132
Ã?? 142
�« 137
�¶ 148
Ã?? 153
�¯ 139
�¼ 129
Ã?? 154
�¡ 160
�© 130
Ã?Â* 161
�³ 162
�º 163
�± 164
Ã?? 165
�¿ 152
�£ 156

I'll be darned!

I had heard of this, but never was able to get it to work before!

Thanks Ron,

Ed

Ed, I had previously tried to show folks how to do this earlier in the the general discussion area under the thread "umlauts and other interesting characters". There are other interesting characters depending on what font is available also.

Strider, I knew I had heard it before and tried it once, but couldn't get it to work???? I usually did the ole cut and paste when I felt the need, :D

Thanks!

Ed

I use that one quite a bit myself. Why work so hard when you do not have to. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Strider,
Your post was the source for the method I posted above. I couldn't find the thread to reference it but I had saved the instructions. Thanks, I have used it several times. You wouldn't happen to know what the code is for the German double-s (looks like a Greek beta) is would you?

In high school German we always called it a pregnant B, and of course the reason they went away from using it, was becausse it reminded people too much that it looked like thiSS .

I would imagine there is a way to show it Ron?

Sure. Look at "Zuverl�¤�?ig" and some other words in gustav73's post above.

Yes, and I bet he is using a German word processing program that makes it easy for them to use it, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Those techniques do not seem to work in Quick Reply. I think it, like most BB sites, uses WordPad, which does not support those methods and does not have the "insert symbol" capability of MS Word. (It also does not support Bold, Italic, or Underline.)

MS Word and Word Perfect can also be set up to insert any symbols in the symbol table with the ALT key, which WordPad cannot.

Jim

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">(It also does not support Bold , Italic , or...)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I am not sure that is true Jim... this reply was posted with the QuickReply feature... and both BOLD and ITALICS work... just UNDERLINE didn't...

"Underline" is not a functional UBB Code.

Ron:

Those representations are from the original 256 code ASCII character set. I’ve been doing a lot of C++ programming lately, and they are handy to know, because you can generate a char array of integers, and if you send them to be outputted (it’s actually stored as a number), it will print out the corresponding ASCII character instead. For instance, ASCII 65 is capital A.

Some time back, ASCII got incorporated in the Unicode (hex) character set, so you can print the German letters using hex too:

Atl 0252 = �¼
Alt 0228 = �¤
Alt 0235 = �«

I actually looked up those characters way back in the 80s, when I wanted to correctly print out the name of a popular heavy metal band of the time: Motley Cr�¼e.

The German/Latin Sharp S character is: Unicode 00DF = Ã??

Type in two zeros and df (upper or lower case), place the cursor to the right of it, and hit Alt+X. The interface you are using at the time must be able to support Unicode. (Like MS Word.)

Heydrich,

Thanks guy! I don't have much occasion to use Ã?? so I usually cut and paste like ViggoG suggested, but it is neat to have the keyboard shortcut. Much appreciated information. I have been fiddling around with various Alt/number combinations to try to stumble onto the ASCII representation for Ã?? but haven't been successful so far.

Eureka! I found the Alt key combination for Ã??!
It is 225 (actually it is the Greek character beta, but it looks like a sharp S). As in my (Strider's) prior table of special characters, hold down the Alt key and type in 225 on the key pad (Num Lock on).

Ron:

Yeah, that looks exactly like the German Sharp S! I went and printed out the whole ASCII table for future reference. ASCII It also looks like you can find the Unicode character set in MS Word simply by placing the cursor directly to the right of the symbol you typed in (or pasted off the Internet), and hitting Alt + X. This trick could come in real handy to avoid actually having to look up the Unicode set for that character, or just to be a smart-ass and show off to your co-workers, friends, or family when they are around the computer.

All,
I never cease to be amazed at the arcane information us Luger-heads get into. I don't think that there are 10 people in this (or any other( universe who cares about this stuff, but, Lord knows, WE DO.

Its great being a Luger collector!
Tom A.

Hi Ron, glad you found the combination you wanted. I did not see your post until tonight so I would not have been able to help you until Monday. There are a lot options available depending on the font. I found several neats ones that I have used for work. When I get back I will see what else I can come up with.
Sid.