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wterrell 08-04-2002 01:39 PM

Chromed Bring-Back
 
Well, here is one of those chromed bring-backs that completes a collection. Feller says that it is all matching.

LINK:

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temNum=3046653

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/erfurt1.jpg

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And Another.

LINK:

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temNum=3023844

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/17.jpg

Garfield 08-04-2002 03:35 PM

That first one looks as though it has been buffed so heavily that the top of the receiver is round.

Aaron 08-04-2002 07:07 PM

The uninformed refinisher who probably had never seen a Luger rounded it off to look more like a RUGER.

bradsimpson 08-05-2002 02:22 AM

Wes,
I have seen many vet bring-back Lugers that looked like that. I know that some Germans had their guns plated, but some of them are so crude. I've wondered if there were GI's having their guns plated after they brought them home? [img]confused.gif[/img]

Garfield 08-05-2002 04:02 AM

Brad:

I would like to hear about the Germans that had their pistols nickel plated. Seems like having a nikel plated hand gun in combat would be analogous to having a nickel plated helmet.

I do know that it was quite common for US post-war occupation forces to have their captured pistols nickel plated. It could be done at the local bicycle shop for a pack or two of cigerettes.

Don Francis 08-05-2002 04:51 PM

While the above pistols are nice, mine still has the original owners name on the barrel, Bohler Sthal. Must have been a high ranking officer to have such a nice sidearm.

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/Publ...Untitled_1.jpg

Edward Tinker 08-05-2002 05:37 PM

Nice looking gun Don, that longer barrel is like a convertable, it always makes the thing look nicer!

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Roadkill 08-05-2002 05:49 PM

Are you sure that is how the last word spelled? If its "STAHL" then it means "steel" and Bohler is the manufacturers name.

RK

Herb 08-05-2002 06:07 PM

Don Francis, do you want some bad news?? If not, read no further. Your Luger has a replacement barrel made in Germany by either Oscar Will AG, Romerswerke AG, or Venuswaffenfabrik on contract from B?¶hler Stahl for the model 24 rifle of the Finnish Civil Guard. It apparently has been cut down to fit the reciever and is probably in .30 cal. These barrels were manufactured from 1924 to 1928. B?¶hler Stahl is still in the steel making business. Additionally it has been completely refinished, probably at the time the replacement barrel was installed, evidenced by the normally strawed parts being blued over, and the lack of crispness of the hump on the side plate and elsewhere indicative of heavy buffing. Take a look at this- http://talk.shooters.com/room_30/16807.cfm#107822
could this be yours?

Hugh 08-05-2002 10:55 PM

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Don Francis 08-06-2002 12:04 AM

As usual my attempts at gun humor fall flat on the their face. The barrel is marked â??Bohler Stahl Made in Austriaâ? these were sold in varies lengths by Fed Ordnance some years back. This one was â??customizedâ? by an infamous local gent back in the 1980â??s. It was a mismatched DWM in poor shape when I first saw it. Picked it up cheap some years later, really cheap judging by the Auction Arms results.

Herb 08-06-2002 12:20 AM

Hugh, stick it in your ear. {added by Ed, [img]eek.gif[/img] <img src="graemlins/icon501.gif" border="0" alt="[icon501]" /> } With all the newby posts here it is difficult to tell reality from truth. If one sits long enough and watches the posts it becomes easier, as you obviously do. I recommend that you attempt to assist rather than criticize the posts of others. I apologise in advance if I have offended you, but your post is offensive to me as I do my best to assist others on this forum using references that are available to me. Your comment of "get a life" is uncalled for, I have a life and at the present it is Lugers! I suggest that you 'get involved'.

Edward Tinker 08-06-2002 12:50 AM

Hey you guys, woke up on the wrong side of the bed?

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Remember, <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

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Johnny Peppers 08-06-2002 12:52 AM

There is a plant in a town near me that manufacturers all types of light fixtures. Over the years many hundreds of pistols have made their way through their plating shop. Many of the pistols like Colt and S&W revolvers still reside in cigar boxes, as they would no longer go back together after the plating buildup. On the old forum I reported on a 1900 AE, serial number 4419 that was brought into the local gunshop by the family of the original owner. It too was in a box disassembled. It went back together, but the AE was almost entirely buffed off the receiver.

Edward Tinker 08-06-2002 12:57 AM

Johnny, I have usually heard that plating was rather thin, but I imagine it depends on type of plating used, how long it was dipped or whatever?

Interesting. I still want a nickled or chromed example for my collection, will keep looking, they seem to have inflated prices on many of them?

AGE 08-06-2002 01:00 AM

Ed,

Why not just get a late model stainless Mitchel? It should be better than a messed up original and just as collectible.

Herb 08-06-2002 01:13 AM

E.T. thanks for the slap up side the head, but I just took offense to the remark. In my opinion it was unnecessary and uncalled for based upon the info available. Why should I waste my time researching this stuff, which is considerable, when I could be out building the retaining wall that the wife wants finished before winter. It is easy to criticise rather than assist as is obvious in that post. It took a long time to dig out that info, now I am sorry that I even took the time to do it.

Edward Tinker 08-06-2002 01:46 AM

AGE, because I want an example of a messed up one! Crazy eh? Will keep the ole eyes open and pick one up (for cheapo) some time. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

And yes the Mitchel arms Luger would be all right too (one of them also I think).

Herb, I get my back up too, and your postins are great, so keep em up! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Doubs 08-06-2002 01:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Edward Tinker:
<strong> And yes the Mitchel arms Luger would be all right too (one of them also I think).</strong><hr></blockquote>

A friend of mine has had one of the Mitchel Arms Lugers for five or six years. In that time he hasn't found a commercial load that would reliably work the action so about a month ago I loaded 10 rounds of 125 grain FMJ and 6.0 grains of Unique. When I talked to him last Sunday, he told me that all ten rounds went through perfectly. Now all he has to do is round up some dies and he'll be in business. I don't know if his Mitchel is typical but it seems that the recoil spring is pretty stiff.

Johnny Peppers 08-06-2002 06:32 PM

Edward,
The sideplates on older Colt and S&W revolvers are almost a tap in fit. It only takes a small buildup to prevent them from going back into the frame.

Edward Tinker 08-06-2002 06:43 PM

Thats right Johnny, I have slowly popped off my S&W sideplate, it is a tight fit, I see what you mean.

Doubs, haven't shot one of the Mitchel's, but have held one in my hand and they felt good, just like a Luger should. Handloading is the way to go at times, I just got away from it.

Hugh 08-06-2002 07:28 PM

<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" /> Roadkill & Herb,

I'm sorry to have offended you. Often what is obvious to some of us is not so obvious to the rest of us. Certainly we have enough enemies out there in the anti-gun liberal camp that we don't need to make more among our friends. My most sincere apologies to the both of you. I humbly accept my 30 lashes with a wet noodle.
<img src="graemlins/icon107.gif" border="0" alt="[icon107]" /> <img src="graemlins/icon501.gif" border="0" alt="[icon501]" />

wterrell 08-06-2002 10:27 PM

Hugh, 30 days in the electric chair!

Edward Tinker 08-06-2002 11:00 PM

Yes, but since there are some liberals among the clan, bathroom breaks, Luger cleaning breaks, grip fixin breaks, wife to do list chores and he can check the forum on a regular basis [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Navy 08-06-2002 11:11 PM

Greatgawdamighty, that is the ONE I have searched for! Does he take Paypal?

Tom A. (with tongue firmly in cheek) <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" />

John Sabato 08-07-2002 02:01 PM

Looking at the bidding history on the first item posted... It makes you wonder why a person would intentionally bid against themself at a final cost of an additional $60.00 [img]confused.gif[/img] [img]confused.gif[/img] [img]confused.gif[/img] [img]confused.gif[/img]

Bidding History for Item #3046653

Bidder Bid Quantity Comments Date/Time
Bulls I $350.00 1 -no comment- 6:54 PM PST Sunday, Aug 4, 2002
Bulls I $330.00 1 -no comment- 4:05 PM PST Sunday, Aug 4, 2002
Bulls I $305.00 1 -no comment- 4:05 PM PST Sunday, Aug 4, 2002
Bulls I $290.00 1 -no comment- 4:04 PM PST Sunday, Aug 4, 2002
RetiredChief $276.50 1 -no comment- 4:03 PM PST Sunday, Aug 4, 2002
geeter $250.50 1 -no comment- 8:04 PM PST Saturday, Aug 3, 2002
Gatorbaiter $200.00 1 -no comment- 1:26 PM PST Saturday, Aug 3, 2002
fuzzy+14 $120.14 1 -no comment- 12:47 PM PST Saturday, Aug 3, 2002
RetiredChief $105.00 1 -no comment- 11:55 AM PST Saturday, Aug 3, 2002
Gatorbaiter $75.00 1 -no comment- 10:51 PM PST Friday, Aug 2, 2002
WW2ISSUE $1.00 Starting Price 11:16 AM PST Friday, Aug 2, 2002

Edward Tinker 08-07-2002 02:06 PM

John, for whatever reason, I think they were intent on meeting the reserve price, which appears to be $350.

ESU 08-09-2002 09:11 PM

can chrome plating be removed and then the gunre blued?

wterrell 08-09-2002 10:02 PM

ESU,

Yes, it is done daily in industry, but.......

...most of the history of some WWII bring backs is what it meant to the US GI returning home. It is his treasure and memory of what was probably the most impressive era of his life. The act of chroming the Luger was to elavate it to a trophy. Destroying this would be destroying the memory of his soul. (IMHO)

Edward Tinker 08-09-2002 10:19 PM

Very true Wes <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" /> well said.


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