Examples of All Six G-Date Lugers
 

Hi Guys, I thought I would share some of my happiness with the Forum. I have managed to accumulate all six of the G-Date Variations. Three have been "donated" by members of the Forum, to whom I am indebted. As many of you know, from my research on G-Dates, some variations are difficult to find, since not many were so marked and no one knows just how many exist. So enjoy!!

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Frank....

ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Now, while Ron will tell you they are "reproduction" Loogers - frankly, Frank - they look outstanding to me!!!

Thanks for the picture - and the post!!!

John D.

Super cool and I love that picture, very well done sir!

Hey Frank.....Really nice display!!!Congratulations!!!...Those guns all look to be in very good condition.....

Great!!!! Frank

Hello Frank,

Very nice collection of the G-Date variations. Thanks for pointing them out. I can't keep all of the different acceptance marks in my head. I guess it is to small! I don't know what it is about lugers but they are just downright different and beautiful to the eyes. I never get tired of looking at them.

Thank You,

Frank,
That is fantastic! I donâ??t care if they are â??reprosâ?� :) , that is a terrific accomplishment. I hope everyone appreciates how difficult it is to put together a representative set like this. It is a feat to be admired and my hat is off to you. Congratulations on a job well done.

Talk about eye candy!!

Very Nice Frank,

I think a group like that should have a more fitting gun display rack. Something made from oak, or teak...

Jim

Thanks!! I appreciate your comments. It took a while, but it was worth the effort. They all have matching numbers and two (the two B|90) have matching magazines.

It's an interesting progression of inspecters from the K-Date B|90 & S|91 through the double DE/63. They settled down for a long haul through the 1936 into the mid 1937 year, then SE/63 came to town until the end of 1939. Probably the same inspection team, but just a change in the die from DE to SE.

MAN! In my dreams. A nice collection.

Ron

Frank,

Very nice to be reminded of the satisfaction and impressiveness in setting a goal in the collection of Lugers, rather than just buying them willy-nilly, congratulations.

"Probably the same inspection team, but just a change in the die from DE to SE."

Is it just a different die, or a change in the chief inspector to whom the imspection team reports?

--Dwight

Just one word Frank... WOW!

That is one great collection. Congrats on getting it put together and thanks for sharing it with us. I think everyone here would like to get a collection like that put together of their prefered variations. Even if they are of the prototype versions. :rolleyes: :D

Sid.

Dwight, it is my theory!! If you examine other Luger items, such as holsters, you will find that the DE was also changed to a SE in the 1937 time frame. So the question is, which is more important, the symbol or the number (or both).

My guess would be that each inspection team reported to head inspector that had a number associated with his authority.

A copy of German Ordnance Codes shows inspector 63 was at Mauser beginning in 1935 and left in 1940. Inspector 655 came on line in 1940 and left in 1941. Then, inspector 135 finished the Mauser Lugers, but stayed at Mauser until 1944.

Frank
That is realy nice!!!!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Russ

Frank,
* Roger that's a "WOW"; like in "WOW-WEE-WOW".
* Concur the dE to sE was a die change unrelated to the Inspection Team constituents. Hitler's party wanted to eradicate any symbol tied to the Weimar republic. The dE was a Weimar style eagle. Took them a couple of years; but, the Nazi style stick eagle was finally incorporated by 1937.
* So why so many Army Inspector teams getting their hands on "G" date Lugers when the balance of the Production years display a more balanced progression of orderly evolution? My WAG is the Waffenamt was training their Inspectors in 1935 and Mauser was one of the companies chosen to enable this expansion of new/cross training.
* An interesting exercise is to see the migration of the 6 Inspection teams to other manufacturing facilities across Germany. We know the "63" team stayed @ Mauser till late 1939. What happen to the other 5 inspector teams?? A quick review of Richard Law's BOTW-98k shows the Mauser plant in Borsigwalde began producing 98k rifles in Berlin in late 1935. The Inspection team mark found almost universally from 1935-1937 is our team "211". As a side bar. some very, very few "cyq" Spreewerk P.38's are found with e/211 accepted small parts in approximately 1942.
* Anyone have a line on the other four Inspection teams (B90, S91, S92, & W/154) relative to where they were subsequently assigned after their 1935 Luger foray??
Respectfully,
Bob

Wonderful!

Ed

Frank,

Very Impressive !! And I mean VERY !! CONGRATS <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Quite an acomplishement you have there....I can imagine all the time, efforts, etc put forward to get them all together......

Variations in the proofmarks, study & explanations on them is also quite interesting.....especially those ``6`` Variations of the same production year.....

CONGRATS

MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Frank- What was collecting timeframe over which these were acquired? Thxs...Bob

Thanks Mark, I guess that's why we do this strange activity!

Hi Bob, I can't say for sure, without a search of some documents. But my best guess is about 10 years. I did get the last two this year!!

Hi Frank,
Nice collection!

Now you need one more to finish off the G-dates.... and that is the very last G-date with the rounded barrel band instead of the sharpe barrel band. That's a tough one to find also. Mine is in the "f" block.

So, you really didn't want to be finished with the G's did you? Smiling -- Bill

MauserLugers a.k.a. "Smiling Bill" <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />

Hi Bill... you don't post often enough...

Hey Bill, what the heck, I will always find another Mauser Military to buy. Maybe I'll never get finished. How far into the F-Block do I have to go? Thanks for the heads up!!

Looks like you will have to buy/build another gun rack with one more position Frank <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Hey Frank, how many variations do you have of the K date and Bill I miss your posts!

Hey Thor, I have the 4 variations shown in Still's Third Reich Lugers Book. I really believe there are seven. I'm still looking for the last three!!!

John, believe it or not, that rack will hold 7 Lugers. I do have another that holds ten!!!!