mystery hybrid Luger
 

Hello,

Recently purchased Luger had intriguing SNs... and many parts with gothic S... Any idea what i got is much appreciated.

Thanks,

looks like
 

the toggle train was once part of a very rare "K" date... the rest, who knows.. Later Mauser receiver and probably frame, i dunno?... :jumper:...best, GT

GT, not the first of the year S/42?

If it was 'made' up, likely done a while ago, although it would only take a year or two to look 'original' like this?

Don't we wish this gun could talk ?? :confused:

In spite of this Luger's rugged appearance, or perhaps because of it, I find myself extremely attracted to this gun and wish that I owned it. Well done Pawel, nice score. :thumbup:

Only the first of the K dates had the Gothic Script S. Could these parts be be from the first K date ever made? #1?

I would guess a rework of some type . Frame and reseiver-barrel are serial 1 also . I would look close at any proofs or rework marks . Lots of " S " marked parts and like already mentioned that is early " K " date only . VERY INTERESTING gun !!!

There appears to be a "42" on the underside of the barrel. So that might be a renumbered replacement part.

That is the crudiest pistol I've ever seen!

I had a LOT worse a few years ago! I had to beat it apart with a hard rubber mallet. I wire wheeled it down to bright metal and left it that way. Still a great shooter!

Perhaps we should have a "Grungiest Luger" thread/contest... :D

The Luger pictured above would have my vote... :p

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

History is often times hard to understand through the grunge available many years after. But here is a fascinating example IMO. PARTS of it almost have to be from the first ever K date made by Mauser. No one else is interested in this possibility?

What else would the (1) one stand for?

Nothing else but serial #1. ? Or I guess there COULD be some other combinations? #101 but then it would be #01? Or #11? But then with only a 2 number serial seems the Germans might use both numbers? Unfortunately I am ignorant of how very short serials were placed? Someone on here knows though.
Dave? Ron? Greg? Ed?


OK! Looks closer, the frame front is plainly marked in the center 1! It is without doubt serial #1. There must be a script Gothic S on the trigger guard..want to see it but it's hard to make out.


Barrel underside shows #1 with a ghost number under it? Possibly a used DWM barrel salvaged by Mauser? Bolt with a #1 too. Back of the toggle train #1


Paul, can you remove the firing pin so we can see what's there?

couple more pics

strange with all that rust and corrosion all of the stamps are clear. Hmmm

Needs a lot of TLC~

Can we see a photo of the entire pistol put together?

Number 1 or not I'd be giving it a complete striping of the finish and make it purty!

Was this pistol plated, or is that a reflective blued surface where it isn't damaged?

Look closely at the front of the frame, and you'll see that the receiver is slightly proud of the frame surface. That often indicates something has been ground and renumbered.

A 1940 dated receiver would not have gothic "S" marked parts from the factory.

The widespread corrosion of this depth makes me wonder if this was dug from the ground? If not, it must have been in a humid environment for years - or intentionally corroded.

Finally, look closely at the proof acceptance eagle on the receiver.

more pics
again i think it is a 1934 K date with 1940 the rest of the parts...

Pawel,
Do you know the history of this Luger? Where is it located? Having 1940 parts and 1934 parts all with the same #1 stamp is very odd to say the least.

i agree it is very odd, i think the 1940 portion might have been altered as the font for "1" is not the same...

Most likely scenario is that P.08 #1 from 1934 (K-date) got a replacement barrel and receiver somewhere down the line.

Interesting pistol, despite its condition.