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Please Help Me Evaluate A P08 Luger Pistol
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I have inherited a P08 Luger. It's a 1918 Erfurt with all serial numbers (with possibly 1 exception) matching. It went into police service at some point. It has 1 matching magazine, no holster, and no tool. I wish to learn market value, not for selling it, as it is a family heirloom, but for equitable division of the estate among the siblings. Thanks in advance for any helpful valuation information you may provide.
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You are asking a lot and supplying little (no photos), but I will give you a generic estimate based on what you have offered.
I'm going to assume that the 1 matching mag. is a police rework mag, not orig. WW1, and will ignore the (possibly) 1 non-matching, and would base it somewhere between $1100 and $1500, but understand that is a WAG of the highest order. dju |
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The firing pin is mis-matched, and the magazine is a police re-work and force-matched, the rest looks pretty nice! The book guys can tell you what the unit markings indicate. I'll hold at around $1300-$1400.
But other more-knowledgeable members may disagree... dju |
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Please tell up which # you think may not be mismatched- I've looked at the pictures but there are a lot of them.
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Don, firing pin is marked “21” instead of 20 like all the other parts of the pistol.
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Please look again. Thanks! |
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Your gun uses a later style "fluted" firing pin. That, with the incorrect number, hurts the value a bit.
What dollar amount were you expecting? dju |
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The fluted pin modification is correct for a police pistol like this.
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Barrel and toggle train look too nice compared to the rest of the gun - highly suspect they are reblued, which is not uncommon for police guns (they seemed to like rebluing the toggle & breechblock). Rest of the finish looks original to me. Anyway, I agree with David's estimate of $1400 for this gun. It might even sell for $1500 or so on gunbroker.
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it IS a 20, just missing part of the left side. |
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that hurts a bit, as we are now into a "mismatched" pistol. |
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Tom, what makes you say the rear toggle is "force matched" ? Looks like a clean #20 in the one picture I found it. |
I would not call the magazine a "forced" match, it is entirely correct for a reworked police pistol- it even has the "dove/o" police acceptance. It is not the "original" magazine- but then the pistol has been through a complete "police" overhaul!
I agree, but somehow still tend to value original (OEM) WW1 parts over the later substituted police parts. Otherwise we could take it to the extreme and boast that a Luger bears "original Russian capture rework numbering". Just my $.02 dju |
I would agree with the higher end estimate of $1400 that you've been given. That would be a value for someone interested in collecting this genre of pistols.
I see a "20" marked on the firing pin, and the flute cut looks like a police modification not a later Mauser fluted firing pin. |
This pistol should be viewed and valued for what it is:
A correct nazi-era police pistol based on a 1918 Erfurt military P08. It stopped being a military P08 when it was reassigned to the police and any attempts to compare it to 1918 standards for the army are pointless in this case. |
Puma, With the few questionable mismatched parts (add force matched rear toggle link) which prevent your Police PO8 from being FACTORY MATCHING, this would normally keep your luger's value below $1K, but with the presence of police installed sear safety, cut-off mag safety and unit markings, these would raise the value by up to $1500 to the right buyer. TH
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I can not tell but it looks like it still has the mag safety disconnect installed. A picture of the left side without the grip would be nice. Be careful about removing that grip.
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Well, RC's and Vopo's are variations- and becoming collectable in their own right. Another 2 cents worth.:cheers: |
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what makes you say the rear toggle is "force" matched? Looks like a clean "20" in the one picture I found.:confused: |
I do not think any one gave the unit mark to you, I believe it to be (sp?) Schutzpoleizi Weisbaden 1st district 584 weapon#. Books are not handy to verify at the moment. John
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