Crates full of P08s
 

When was the last time you saw crates full of Lugers. They are all destined to be melt. Bunch of P38, MG42 & P08. :mad:

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/cont...af.htm/player/

says not page found - these new found lugers etc?

and to answer that question - only in pictures - not counting on consignment on walls :)

Try again.

I'll bid on an unopened box...…….

Wow they are still out there.

Hopefully someone sees this and offers x dollars for a few dozen boxes....

On man's meat is another man's poison:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m..._Destroyed.jpg

Now we know what "real" RC weapons look like. :)

I don't think we need to worry that they will be "allowed" into the US; saving our luger(and P 38 and MG 42) market from a precipitous price drops!;)

They could bring in hard cash on the European deactivation market. :(

let alone the black market - when I was in Berlin, the Russians were just leaving - rumor was, you could buy just about anything :eek:

I would think that they must realize how much cash they could have if only they put at least some of those guns on the civil market in Europe and in the States.

I really hope they won't destroy them!

The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days?

Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.

they have previously been added when the importer got them (I do not know for sure, but either before importation or right after)

I thought we (USA) were no longer importing military weapons, parts kits only?
dju

All kinds of used imported handguns: https://www.classicfirearms.com/hand...95884396647687

Crates o Lugers
 

I realize that bringing these Lugers into the US would lower some prices, but I just hate to see them destroyed. There goes some more history.
People already don't know what it means.

As someone looking to expand my collection, lower prices would be readily received. If my role were that of a long time collector or someone wishing to sell them, I can see the issue on the flip side. That of devaluing the collection and/or not getting the money out of liquidating it or selling them to finance other projects.

There may be a few minty examples in those chests, but for the most part I suspect they are on the low end of collecting condition. That could drive down the prices a bit for entry level collection pieces, but it would have no effect on high condition Luger prices in my opinion. However, the impact of these guns on the marking is moot as not a one of them will legally make their way into the US and given the current gun climate in Europe not many will end up there either. Parts on the other hand may be a bonanza.
Ron

Do we currently have a ban on importing this stuff? i had it in my head that the "good ole' days" are behind us as far as large quantities of warehoused arms showing up on the US market.
dju

You're right there Ron.

Those TT-33s are not in the US. That was a picture of one of several dumpsters full of new TT-33s waiting to be destroyed.

Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway :(

Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?

That would be "a" reason; they also don't meet import criteria- if you mean the Tokarev pistols.

Venezuela could use them right about now.

Buy T-33 here, scroll down to second item: https://mailchi.mp/aimsurplus/new-sh...s?e=cee4516609

Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(

Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
Well, except for the ones that "fell off the truck".:D

Really, really.

If any didn't make it into the dumpsters, they might have survived (for a while). But for the pistols in the dumpsters, crunchola.

That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...

A good substitute: https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo...-surplus-9rd/?

Unfortunately, no. Dumpsters of Soviet Russian TT-33 and Makarov pistols, and US 1911A1 pistols gone to the cruncher.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...es/Crunch1.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...es/Crunch2.jpg

Sam Cummings and his business model have both been dead
for decades.

Knew I had at least one photo of the Makarov pistols on the way to the cruncher, just took me a while to remember where I'd filed it:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...ToCruncher.jpg

Kyrie, I'd thank you for sharing those photos of destroyed firearms...but I am too busy crying and grieving. :crying:

I can empathize, but GCA '68 pretty much killed the importation of military surplus firearms into the USA. If it wasn't commercial w/sporting use, or police with sporting use, it wasn't importable into the US.

It wasn't until 1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act, and policy changes at the Federal level, that we once more began to see some limited amount of what used to be called "military surplus" firearms. And even then the point system and minimum feature requirements remained in effect (which is why all the TT-33s imported after '86 had safeties installed).

Right, but the later restrictions placed on "weapons of war" against China (by Clinton) and Russia (by Obama) stopped Makarovs and other Com-bloc weapons from otherwise legal import. Trump could reverse those orders, if he was made aware and saw fit to do so.

:crying:

:(

:crying:

I would love to have a few of those MG42s

they would be an awesome tool for taking down unwanted farm silos!

https://youtu.be/EzKvwYt3Zyg

https://youtu.be/dQ0Un61Onqc