Can anybody find Prvi Partizan 30 para ?
 

Just bought a commercial 30 cal. Does not eject the brand of 30 para I got at a specialty store ( not Fiocci ). I hear this is common and Prvi is the best brand for 30 para but I cannot find it for sale anywhere. Previous owner said he used Prvi since others would not feed. I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work

Aim Surplus is my go-to for PP .30 Luger. Bear in mind it’s not a nationally popular cartridge so it’s not always available, but it is in stock often enough. Keep checking back with them.
For what it’s worth, you can mail order ammunition directly. You don’t need an FFL to do it for you (and add his mark-up.)

I got Fiocchi from Lucky Gunner for my .30 Luger and it worked just fine, they delivered to my doorstep as well.

" I do not want to order a lot of Fiocci by mail and pay for an FFL ( nobody carries Fiocci 30 para otherwise around here ) if it wont work"

You won't know until you try it- probably a 50% chance Fiocchi will work in your particular luger.
PPU will be available next time they make a production run.

Side note, how is Prvi partizan pronounced? Like “privvy”, “Pervy” or just P-R-V-I...?

well, it would never occur to me to say 'pervy' ;)

I just say Privvy - but PPU is easier. But then you could watch their video (if they had any words ) https://www.prvipartizan.com/

PPU seemed to function in my carbine the best, so went looking a couple months ago. None around, however, now the large pawn shop in Deer park has a case of it, so bought four boxes.

you don't have a state listed, so you must be wrong, as no state except California requires ammo to go through an FFL :D

yes i live in Ca . Yeah I know , the people's republic of. As long as PPU makes it sometimes i will be ready for the next batch. Just wanted assurance they did not stop making it. Nobody sells it around here and Krausewerk has 30 for a premium price but it's a long drive, the stuff is a brand i've never heard of and is probably old, and it did not cycle to boot.
I,m pretty far coastal so shipping to a neighboring state is not practical.Got a great deal just after the law changed:(

It would be helpful to the rest of us if you would just say what the other "brand" is.

hah hah - subtle hint that it helps us to know your state. nobody but mods can see your last name, unless its in the title like mine ;) :D

anyway, ensure everything is very smooth on your 30 luger, and if the mainspring is strong enough / too strong. Again, not sure if you have a 1900 or 1908 type ;)

Lugers are great shooters, but can be finicky, once you find a round that works, I stick with it, although I am not a huge shooter....

Under the S.A.F.E. Act, online sales to New Yorkers are still legal, but the buyer must go through a licensed dealer in the state and pick up the ammunition in person. A background check for all ammo sales was originally part of the Act, but has never been implemented.

I've received ammo from auctions that was just stuck into a small Flat Rate box and mailed directly, which breaks USPS rules as well as the SAFE Act. I don't complain about it, though...

I have to get the box out of the garage and i am at work . I seem to remember " stainless or something like that i never heard of . Makes me think it was reloads but they were like $.80 @ which is not reload price. Came in a very plain cardboard box. Seller said that PPU worked best when he shot it and Fiocci was not good. I could take it to Krausewerk to have them look it over but i would pay less for a thousand rounds of PPU and I would still have the ammo if it did not solve the problem. I do have a couple of 9mm ones and tried all of their mags but no help.

Krausewerk said it was a standard commercial 1920s model if that helps

Aim and everywhere is out of PPU

There is some at my LGS, but you don't want to order it anyway- due to shipping charges/costs at FFL on your end- if I read your post correctly.
They won't ship to CA anyway- so I guess you have to wait till PPU is re-stocked in CA.

or restocked anywhere

The last gun show I went to one table had three boxes and I bought all three. So I would watch the shows if they have shows in CA.

Yes they do have gun shows but sucks to spend $20 to get ammo only . The brand I was shooting and did not cycle was " Metallic Cartridge Specialties" which comes in a plain white box and lists no address. Likely reloaded brass.Wish I could post a pic but my 18 year old is off to college.

Paid about .80 per for it too. bought only 100 though so not in too deep

$40 a box- I'd return the full box. Ammo is supposed to work.

Unfortunately this is the only shop I trust to work on my Lugers so I can't burn bridges,.They can be cantankerous at times. unless somebody else knows a gunsmith in the Bay Area who knows a P08 from a P 38

OK took it to Krausewerks. They say somebody put in a 9mm spring which is too stiff. Also say the metallic cartridge specialities ammo is pretty good, no complaints. Says usually found at gun shows . He's not sure there's a big difference between Prvi P and Fiocchi. Says the usual load of European cartridge mfg is " hotter" than in the US.. I got a box of Fiocchi to see when it is back if it will function with Fiocchi, which I can get shipped.

by the way, Wolf does not distinguish between 9mm and .30 and sends the same spring for both.

I believe that I have seen LugerDoc mention a process of removing a specific number of spring coils for use in a .30.
dju

There is so much "wrong" with what the expert shop told you-
did you not complain about the ammo? That is at least "one" complaint! "Usually found at gun shows"- now there is a glowing recommendation and stamp of approval!

No big difference in Fiocchi and PP? He has never tried either, IMO. You have read the threads on the .30 luger ammo "problems" both here and on the other forum?:confused:

"Someone changed the spring"- maybe; but check out the spring sticky and you will see that DWM put the same spring in their .30 and 9mm luger pistols at times! Which is not to say your spring is the correct size/weight spring. To be sure buy a spring from Lugerdoc and install it.

European "hotter" ammo- like everything else- some is and some "ain't"! Since there is no current US mfg of .30 luger- his statement is meaningless in regard to your inquiry. Reloads and ammo in "un-remarkable" boxes doesn't count.

Please let us know how the Fiocchi works in your luger.:cheers:

Ammoseek.com
 

30 Luger available from Fiocchi or PPU

Ammoseek.com. Enter the caliber , case type, etc and find multiple sales points!

PPU is Fmj, while Fiocchi is lead nosed!

The PPU works fine in my 1902 carbine ,never jaim

I find Fiocchi is available all year, but PPU is only available for a while each year (when they make a batch I suppose). I stock up on PPU, because Fiocchi won't cycle my gun properly, as other have reported. But it clearly works for some.

Also, Fiocchi makes both lead nose and FMJ ammo. I can only find the lead nose around here in the 2 stores that carry it. (Unfortunately one just closed so it will be the one store that carries it locally.)

If I need .30 Luger I go here. https://www.luckygunner.com/handgun/30-luger-ammo

That URL should take you directly to their .30 Luger ammo selection. They almost always have Fiocchi available and at the moment they have 31 boxes of PPU too. Fiocchi in both FMJ and lead nose. They seem to keep track of the inventory as well, when I bought some about a year ago for one of my Lugers the inventory available dropped after I placed my order. If your state allows (Ohio does), they even ship it right to your door.

I have found Fiocchi to work perfectly in my Sig P210. I haven't tried PPU. I'm going to drag out my Luger and try also.

Is it generally believed that PPU is better than Fiocchi?

Curl

My AE will stove pipe Fiocchi every third or fourth round. Where PPU have never failed to totally eject.

Curl,

PPU is loaded a bit hotter to European Specs.

Fiocchi pistol ammo is loaded here, in the USA, to SAAMI Specs.

SAAMI specs, for this round, are way too low to operate a Luger's action properly. Remember that the 7.65 Luger round was around long before SAAMI even existed. Also remember that many other modernly designed pistols (your Sig for instance) have come and gone since.


Sieger

I was at a Cabelas today and decided to try and find 30 Luger ammo there as over the years I have found that they are often a decent source for some harder to find calibers.

I had to correct the sales guy there are he kept insisting to me that the Luger shot 9mm. So he kept trying to show me 9mm, also known as 9x19 he kept telling me. I kept trying to tell him no, 30 Luger. I finally had to just politely stop him and explain to him that there are Commercial Lugers and that they do NOT all shoot 9mm, that 30 Luger is a caliber and does exist.

We were then able to determine with certainty that Cabelas does NOT carry 30 Luger!

I got a good laugh out of it even if I struck out.