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LugerMan.com 01-11-2018 06:16 PM

Luger 45 Art
 
3 Attachment(s)
Efforts of this year on 1/11/18 before shipping

Ron Wood 01-11-2018 07:05 PM

Superior stuff...well done!

Edward Tinker 01-11-2018 07:22 PM

Eugene, that is great!

LugerMan.com 01-11-2018 07:37 PM

Unit #16
 
Posted Unit#16 on Gun Broker today.
Want to see what reaction it will get.
It will start in 4 hours for 12 days.

It looks like we emptied the pockets of this forum , as #16
was not taken in hours like i was expecting.

Maybe i think more of the project then it's worth ?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

LugerMan.com 01-11-2018 07:40 PM

Here it is anyways
 
10 Attachment(s)
Her are some close ups of #16

sheepherder 01-11-2018 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 312347)
It looks like we emptied the pockets of this form , as #16
was not taken in hours like i was expecting.

Just my two cents, but I think if you had posted it for the price it originally was listed for, you may have gotten a response... :)

All things considered, you would not be any worse off financially if the deal had gone through...

...I'm just sayin'... :rolleyes:

Whatever happened to the 'test' .45 Luger that G&A had for a year???

DonVoigt 01-11-2018 09:09 PM

Someone posted on one of the forums that the .45 was reviewed in the Dec or Jan isssue.
I have not seen the article.

LugerMan.com 01-11-2018 09:16 PM

Guns and Ammo February 2018 issue has the article.
It was in stores on January 2.
Patrick still has the #4 gun in his hands, for a bit longer.
And he has a good reason for that. His news not mine ...

LugerMan.com 01-11-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 312353)
Just my two cents, but I think if you had posted it for the price it originally was listed for, you may have gotten a response... :)

All things considered, you would not be any worse off financially if the deal had gone through...

...I'm just sayin'... :rolleyes:

Whatever happened to the 'test' .45 Luger that G&A had for a year???


That is probably true, but I figured last available gun , that is ready to go, and can be delivered sooner then others that people paid less for and patiently waiting for.

It makes them feel a bit better, that guns on the market with higher price...

It's on GB now, I am kind of interested to see the response of general public.

lugerholsterrepair 01-11-2018 10:15 PM

It's on GB now, I am kind of interested to see the response of general public. TESTING!
TESTING! 1 2 3 4 TESTING!

sheepherder 01-11-2018 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 312359)
It's on GB now...

It's certainly well hidden. How did you list it? :rolleyes:

lugerholsterrepair 01-11-2018 11:13 PM

Ya got me! I can't find it either..

LugerMan.com 01-11-2018 11:25 PM

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/737831072

You guys can not wait , I love it.
It starts at 11.
But you can see it with the link

sheepherder 01-12-2018 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 312366)
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/737831072

You guys can not wait , I love it.
It starts at 11.
But you can see it with the link

"...we reserve the right to close the auction early if there are no winning bids on it"...

What does that even mean??? :eek::confused::rolleyes:

never mind! I put my bid in! :D Ooh..."Reserve Not Met"... :crying:

gunbugs 01-12-2018 01:44 AM

I just outbid you! But, not nearly high enough....It is fun to think about, though...If we hadn't just bought that 2018 Toyota last week, but it was time. The newest car we had was 20 years old.

DonVoigt 01-12-2018 10:09 AM

HA! I just out bid you both, but still under the reserve.
I'll bet the reserve is over $5k! ;)

sheepherder 01-12-2018 11:27 AM

Argh!!! I keep getting emails that "The seller has updated Item 737831072"... :grr:

Not only that, but it's listed as being sold by 'gunhunter2000'...And it's listed under 'Curios & Relics', which it certainly isn't... :banghead:

I don't even check C&R listings...

Not a very auspicious beginning... :rolleyes:

LugerMan.com 01-12-2018 12:12 PM

There is a note on the bottom for a C&R reason ;0)

Also updates were made to add info and better search criteria ...

LugerMan.com 01-12-2018 05:43 PM

Looks like GB worked ...

First day in, reserve covered...

There is hope for the collectors world still...

sheepherder 01-12-2018 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 312393)
Looks like GB worked ...
First day in, reserve covered...

OMG!!! We bumped it up over the reserve??? :eek:

Does that make us 'shill bidders'??? :(

LugerMan.com 01-12-2018 07:07 PM

Not if I get the money at the end.

DonVoigt 01-12-2018 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 312396)
OMG!!! We bumped it up over the reserve??? :eek:

Does that make us 'shill bidders'??? :(

I don't know about you, but I would have bought it at my bid!:eek:

High bidder is not one I recognize, but he is going to get a nice .45 luger!

sheepherder 01-13-2018 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 312399)
High bidder is not one I recognize, but he is going to get a nice .45 luger!

It's at $5,795.00 and there's still 10 days left! I bet it hits $7,000+!!! :cheers:

LugerMan.com 01-16-2018 08:44 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Getting boxed up

cirelaw 01-16-2018 09:09 PM

Eugene, how many of a particular model do you make? What sells the best? What model takes you the most time and effort! Do you still have your first? Is there an exception for the stamp! Thank You My Hero!

LugerMan.com 01-17-2018 09:35 AM

Standard model gets ordered the most,

Some Baby lugers were ordered and they are a bit of a pain.

Target models get there fair share as well.

Our first is a #4 that was featured in Guns and Ammo Feb 2018

and it has not come home, but it will soon.

We really do not want to make exceptions for markings, so that the guns can be recognizable.

sheepherder 01-24-2018 06:46 PM

Well, I was wrong. It didn't hit $7,000... :(

This item has sold.

Current Bid $5,795.00
Starting Bid $0.01
Reserve Met 6 Bids Bid History
Time Left 15 min rule
Item has Ended Ending Time 1/23/2018 11:00 PM
Item viewed 1329 times.

Winning bidder tmbindy A+(9)


And they taunted me about being outbid!!! :crying:

Hello Richard, you did not win this item.

LugerMan.com 01-24-2018 07:06 PM

2018 Lot of 50
 
the lot of 2018 for 50 units,
and it's starting to go after article.
Place your orders while there is some available.

Last year 40 units lasted about 3 month and it was all gone.

Edward Tinker 01-24-2018 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 312868)
the lot of 2018 for 50 units,
and it's starting to go after article.
Place your orders while there is some available.

Last year 40 units lasted about 3 month and it was all gone.

when will all the first 40 go out? Just asking because a close friend or 2 or 3 are expecting one... :confused:

DonVoigt 01-24-2018 08:45 PM

Eugene wrote me this week after I asked about the progress; he said 8 had shipped, and another 8 were going out this week.

The ship in order of order placement, not serial number. My #20 is supposed to be in the 3rd or 4th batch, maybe middle of Feb. shipment. ?;)? I hope :)

LugerMan.com 01-24-2018 08:57 PM

shipping
 
Total of 9 guns were shipped,

with my son out with bad back ,

rust blue is delayed.
It takes about a week to rust blue 8 guns.

getting next 8 ready.
guns have been assembled and tested in the white.

hoping next week all will fall in to place and they will be ready to go out.

Mean while we are getting next 8 ready for rust blue.

Edward Tinker 01-24-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 312874)
Total of 9 guns were shipped,

with my son out with bad back ,

rust blue is delayed.
It takes about a week to rust blue 8 guns.

getting next 8 ready.
guns have been assembled and tested in the white.

hoping next week all will fall in to place and they will be ready to go out.

Mean while we are getting next 8 ready for rust blue.

sounds excellent Eugene - but you taught him the bluing!

:evilgrin: :cheers: :evilgrin:

LugerMan.com 01-24-2018 10:18 PM

I did, but if I spend my life bluing, you will never see any other projects comeout. Besides he is better at it. He got the patience I do not.

Tomathvl 02-03-2018 08:52 PM

OK, I bought No. 16 off Gun Broker and received it yesterday. Beautiful gun, excellent machining, blue job, magazine is piece of art.
Couple of issues:
1. Magazine is very difficult to install and remove. Installation requires you to push Mag release or slam it home; slamming is not a good idea as may damage Mag catch. Removal requires you to push button and pull the Mag out. Eugene said to load Mag w/7, open toggle and push button to install Magazine to prevent damage to Mag.
2. Disassembled the gun and removed barrel/toggle Ass’y and locking bolt fell out; it won’t stay in place in dissembled mode. Spring doesn’t hold in place.
Other buyers let me know if you find same conditions or others.
Waiting for warm up to take to range to fire.

LugerMan.com 02-03-2018 09:41 PM

If you feel strongly about take down lever folling out on dissasembly, I can send a stronger spring out to you to cure the problem. Gun was test fire with 100 round and takedown never opens on it's own. Let me know on the spring.

cirelaw 02-03-2018 09:55 PM

Eugene, where did you learn your expertise and how long have you creating your beauties!! Eric

LugerMan.com 02-04-2018 12:39 AM

On the magazine button, luger mags are never drop free.
Our magazine catch springs are stronger then original.
We were focusing on reliable function of the gun. Soft magazine catch springs were contributing to magazine jumping out of lockup during fire. So we decided that trade off was worth it.
Push the button on inserting magazine, or loose it during firing

LugerMan.com 02-04-2018 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 313244)
Eugene, where did you learn your expertise and how long have you creating your beauties!! Eric


This is a 3 years on going effort for the 45 lugers.

I have been working on and restoring lugers for 23 years.

Tomathvl 02-04-2018 02:57 PM

I watched in awe what Eugene has accomplished in his quest to bring this Luger to market. No small feat what he has accomplished. I’m a careful buyer that followed his step by step progress. I didn’t plop down close to 6 grand because I didn’t have some expectation that he would succeed. Even though he put in many hours to debug this design he can always use positive feedback to improve the process. I hope he takes it in the spirit of how it’s meant. I intend that my feedback is a positive to help improve an already great product. I’m not casting stones. If other 45 Luger owners post their observations in a positive manner we can provide a valuable service to improve the process.
The issues I mentioned are not earth shattering and in the case of the magazine is not a big problem in operating the luger. Perhaps a small contour change can improve magazine insertion.
The locking bolt issue is either bolt tolerance, hole tolerance or spring design. I expect Eugene will work on improving this issue if it shows up on other guns. As for mine, I’ll try the new spring offered to see if that fixes my Locking Bolt issue.
I hope Eugene’s business grows to be of a size that he can afford a Business Manager, IMHO, he surely needs one. My observation is Eugene is a machinist, engineer, and entrepreneur and needs guidance in business matters.
Not wanting to cast aspersions on anybody’s product but I believe the makers of the other 45 Lugers mentioned in a previous post had problems with their products, some never corrected.

Edward Tinker 02-04-2018 03:04 PM

Tom, well said - I am envious of your new purchase, but glad for you!


Ed


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