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johnb593 01-25-2017 03:33 PM

"New" Luger
 
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I received this 1917 DWM that has been rebarreled to 7.65 today.

Arizona Slim 01-25-2017 04:13 PM

Thanks for the pics John, can't help but wonder why it was re- barreled to 7.65mm? :confused:

Lon

sheepherder 01-25-2017 04:26 PM

Finnish front sight blade??? Maybe a Tikkakoski barrel???

Does it have an SA on the frame???

Heavily buffed, reblued...Grips look new...Good looking shooter... :)

johnb593 01-25-2017 04:33 PM

Nor can I Lon. Why not just leave it as built? I like it anyway!

johnb593 01-25-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 297960)
Finnish front sight blade??? Maybe a Tikkakoski barrel???

Does it have an SA on the frame???

Heavily buffed, reblued...Grips look new...Good looking shooter... :)

It has a lower case "a" but no SA. The barrel was made in Finland.

Arizona Slim 01-25-2017 04:38 PM

Yes, I like it too John. I have several 7.65's and don't have a problem with that.

Lon

johnb593 01-25-2017 05:26 PM

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Luckily I already had a suitable holster......

cirelaw 01-25-2017 06:22 PM

Are barrels interchangeable?

johnb593 01-25-2017 06:59 PM

As I understand it, yes.

ithacaartist 01-25-2017 09:54 PM

Eric,

Yes and no. Ron Wood posted some great pics and info on this! This is what I remember, I hope my recollections are not "alternative facts"!

The earliest ones had grip frames that were about 1/10 of an inch longer, and barrel extensions to match. The aforementioned dimension happens in the area of the chamber, so the early ones had longer threaded portions behind the flange, thus will not fit on a later barrel extension for a short frame and short threaded bit, and vice versa--unless creatively adapted.

The shorter frames became the norm fairly soon. If I'm not mistaken, the Swiss guns from Bern and the Mauser Parabellums were also made with the longer grip frames and barrel extensions. I have one '06 AE that is short frame, and another that is long frame, both are numbered in early Commercial style, so without looking it up, I think maybe the transition happened along there somewhere...

You may recall an occasional post about guns with mixed grip frame and upper assembly, where the shorter receiver from a later gun has been cobbled together with an older, long frame--or the other way 'round. The result is that the receiver is either proud of the frame by a noticeable bit, or tucked back into it the same amount, both of which look pretty goofy.

cirelaw 01-25-2017 10:22 PM

Thank You My Hero! Up until now I never gave it a thought. I love lugers and our devotion always to learning more about them!~

rhuff 01-26-2017 01:51 PM

As Lon stated, the 30 Luger caliber is a fun caliber to shoot, and very accurate. Enjoy.....happiness is having reliable, shooter Lugers!!

John Sabato 01-26-2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 297971)
Are barrels interchangeable?

Yes, but not by an amateur... using the wrong method or tools will result in a twisted upper receiver...

Have someone who is a competent Luger gunsmith do a barrel change for you if that is what you want. Several members of the forum are qualified to do this work.

If you want suggestions, just ask.

johnb593 01-26-2017 04:56 PM

I appreciate that but I'm okay with it the way it is now.

johnb593 01-28-2017 05:33 PM

As you can see it has the magazine with the wooden base. I'd like to get another mag to go with it that doesn't have the wood base.

Lugerdoc 01-29-2017 08:50 AM

johnb, I'm currently sold out of original DWM wood bottomed mags, but so have new stainless repros with wood bottom @$40 + $5 S&H. TH

DonVoigt 01-29-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by johnb593 (Post 298072)
As you can see it has the magazine with the wooden base. I'd like to get another mag to go with it that doesn't have the wood base.

If you want one for shooting, buy a Mecgar- they currently have a plastic base.

If you want something for collecting or ? Please be more specific.

johnb593 01-29-2017 01:33 PM

I would just want it for shooting.

rhuff 01-29-2017 02:49 PM

For shooting, IMHO, the Mec-Gar aftermarket mag is the best, and the most affordable mag available for the Luger.

Sergio Natali 01-30-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johnb593 (Post 298088)
I would just want it for shooting.

I think you've got a very nice "shooter" I would say; :thumbup: the only drawback is the cost of 7,65 ammo, unless you reload.

johnb593 01-30-2017 01:03 PM

I bought 100 rounds from Ammo To Go for $41.00 plus shipping. Not too bad I'd say.

rhuff 01-30-2017 03:23 PM

Save that used brass!! There are folks on this forum that reload the 30 Luger brass. The brass is the most expensive part of that ammo. You may find that you really enjoy shooting your Luger, and decide to handload down the road. :thumbup:

johnb593 01-30-2017 03:44 PM

Yes indeed I'll save the brass. :)

RShaw 01-30-2017 04:28 PM

Many thanks David / Ithacaartist, for your post above- quote here below:
"You may recall an occasional post about guns with mixed grip frame and upper assembly, where the shorter receiver from a later gun has been cobbled together with an older, long frame--or the other way 'round. The result is that the receiver is either proud of the frame by a noticeable bit, or tucked back into it the same amount, both of which look pretty goofy."

I would be very interested in seeing a side by side comparison of a mixed grip frame and upper assembly, versus an authentic, "normal" pistol. Lookg a t a photo of a given gun- I would not be able to tell whether it is a mixed bag or a matching gun. When viewing online photos of Lugers for possible purchase, I would like to discern the two. On the other hand, I would greatly prefer to buy from forum members....

cirelaw 01-30-2017 04:30 PM

Gun Ranges must earn loads ond fired brass rounds!!

DonVoigt 01-30-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RShaw (Post 298164)
Many thanks David / Ithacaartist, for your post above- quote here below:
"You may recall an occasional post about guns with mixed grip frame and upper assembly, where the shorter receiver from a later gun has been cobbled together with an older, long frame--or the other way 'round. The result is that the receiver is either proud of the frame by a noticeable bit, or tucked back into it the same amount, both of which look pretty goofy."

I would be very interested in seeing a side by side comparison of a mixed grip frame and upper assembly, versus an authentic, "normal" pistol. Lookg a t a photo of a given gun- I would not be able to tell whether it is a mixed bag or a matching gun. When viewing online photos of Lugers for possible purchase, I would like to discern the two. On the other hand, I would greatly prefer to buy from forum members....

It is pretty hard to do a side by side of two lugers with mixed up parts, as I don't have one of each.:eek:

But I do have a Navy long frame with long frame barrel on a short receiver(clear right!); it uses a breeching ring to get the long shank barrel to screw into the short thread receiver and line up correctly. The difference is about 1/10 of an inch and is very noticable if you find a "mis-match".

Here is the "mixed" Navy to show you what I mean.:cool:

johnb593 01-30-2017 10:13 PM

And all this has what to do with my original post?

DavidJayUden 01-30-2017 11:29 PM

Probably nothing, but these threads take on a life of their own. That's just how we learn. OK?

RShaw 01-31-2017 12:52 AM

Actually, the original post was about a new Luger rebarreled to 7,65 mm. (Nice gun!) but yes these threads CAN diverge in different directions, true. Thank you Don for the comparison- very clear explanation :)

DonVoigt 01-31-2017 08:32 AM

Tough to stay on topic when this is it:
""New" Luger
I received this 1917 DWM that has been rebarreled to 7.65 today."

Seems to me you started the discussion on "rebarreling"?

johnb593 01-31-2017 12:49 PM

Actually it was just to show some photos of my new Luger and see how you guys liked it. Yes, threads do have a way of "wandering" and we do learn some things from that.

RShaw 01-31-2017 01:06 PM

Well, it looks like a very nice pistol judging by the photos :) nice find!!

johnb593 01-31-2017 01:19 PM

Thank you!

RShaw 01-31-2017 02:20 PM

Of course :). Enjoy it!! I'm interested in a 7,65 mm myself.... still in the "negotiations phase"

johnb593 01-31-2017 02:59 PM

Good luck!!


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