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1918 dwm value
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Hello all my name is Colton. I'm new to Lugers but I've wanted one for a very long time. I have multiple military firearms mostly ww2 era . So here goes, I was at Cabelas about two months ago and came across one of my dream guns, the Luger, and before I did any research I bought it. So now I'm enlisting your knowledge of this firearm to see what the true value of it is. The gun came with 6 magazines and a holster witch I can't find any information about .
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You should post more pics. But to me it looks refinished and buffed if it is a 1918 it should not have a blues trigger. At least from the photo it appears to be blued.
Please post more pics if you can. Wayne |
Hi and welcome.
You are going to have to do some work for input! First read the stickys for new collectors. Then post good close ups of the various angles of your luger, magazines, and holster. Tell us what you paid for it too, as that is the "true" value. It may be worth more or less to someone else, but pictures are needed to tell. |
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I'm having some difficulty posting the pictures. I paid 1000 for it
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This is the holster it came with I can not find any other like it
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The markings on the strap for the holster
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The Luger is likely worth $700-$800. As it looks a bit pitted? If bad lighting and not pitted, and matching, then a thousand is a good price.
Repro magazines? If original, they are worth $100 each, if repro, $5 each. The holster I'd say is USA, except that's a German marking. Interesting. The mag pouch looks more p38 or Radom or 1911? |
Csiford, congrats on your first Luger and welcome to the forum. All the numbers showing appear to match, the finish appears to be reblued due to earlier roughness and piting. The holster is unique to me; I've never seen one like it. Show us close photos of the mag and particularly the bottom. Photos of the back sides of the grips will be helpful in determining originality. Nice first rig.
My opinion is that you may have paid close, if not slightly more than the market value. Frankly, you did ok on your first Luger purchase given your limited knowledge. I'm sure you will enjoy your new Luger, the most famous and exciting pistol ever made.:thumbup: |
I will retract my statement about the trigger being blued. It looked blued in the pic that was posted last night. I jumped the gun.
The holster hanger is kind of cool as pointed out by Ed earlier. It apprears to be a cut down hanger off of an SA Dagger. |
Ditto on what the others said on the pistol, it is reblued and pitted, and you sightly overpaid.
But the holster may be worth $100 to someone, it is likely a German made copy of the US 1911 shoulder holster; many not issue holsters were made for lugers for GI's just post WWII. They probably or could have come home together as souvenirs; unfortunately the luger did not fare as well as the holster. Welcome to the board, but be careful- it is tough to own just one! |
How about a photo of the magazines?
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The holster looks like a P38 holster but would have to try a mag to say for sure. Shoulder holster with RZM marking I would guess would be worth 250. Good score if you want to sell the holster.
I agree with Ed that the gun is 700 to 800. I would buy the holster if interested in selling. |
That holster is interesting. I've heard it said here that no such shoulder holsters were ever issued, so comments on authenticity are welcome.
dju |
Thanks for all of the information guys and as far as the mags go I'll I've to take pictures of them tonight when I get home I ran out of time last night . The pitting looks far worse in the pictures than it does in real life . Can you guys see the markings enough to give me a little more information on them?
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Not much to say on the pistol itself, it is a "normal" DWM P 08 made in 1918.
Neglected, pitted- likely from poor storage-, reblued , but with a cool holster. I doubt the holster was "issue", just re-purposing/recycling of an existing buckle or strap, JMHO. |
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The holster is a GI private purchase. The RZM marked clasp was added to it later, as the original design adjustment buckle made it harder to remove the holster with gear on. I agree that it is an SA dagger hanger clasp.
This is not an issue item and should not be priced as such. Between the pistol, holster and the yet to be seen magazines, you paid in the high end of retail, but you weren't seriously hurt. |
Congrats on your "new" Luger. You have what is considered a shooter grade 1918 DWM Luger. Due to the rust/pitting, heavy buffing, and rebluing, it no longer has collector value. That is not a bad thing for one's first Luger. Learn about it's inner workings, clean and lube it, and then take it to the range and enjoy. Lugers are fun shooters. Welcome to the forum.
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Ok here are the mag pictures.. And I tried to put a p38 magazine in the holster it wouldn't fit it's too wide
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The only other one that I have found markings on
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Tried out my 1911 in the holster and that's as far as it would go same with my fathers colt
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Now this is what it looks like with a mag and the Luger in the holster ... It fits like a glove
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Yours is a 1911 STYLE holster, made for a luger.
Commonly made in Europe for various pistols post WWII. |
Ok sweet thanks !! Any information on the mags? I think at least one is a ww2 mag but I'm not sure about any of the others
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You have shown the base of a mauser magazine(eagle 63) and a Portuguese luger magazine, the one with the markings and wood base.
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You seem to have one post war commercial mag, maybe Erma. There appear to be two WWII era mags with modern replacement bottoms and two Imperial era wooden based mags. They all have some value. Your purchase was a good one for the money.
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but can you identify the one with the base that looks like marbled white chocolate? I suspect it was made by the "Franzite" company they made Luger grips too.
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The magazine in the far right in your first mag picture might be a Swiss Luger magazine. Is there a letter "P" stamped on it?
Welcome to the forum! Marc |
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Picture of the far right one
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And for some reason it posted the picture upside down haha it looks like a cursive P
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Holster was not issued German equipment. A rework, most likely by the GI either while in Europe or when he returned to the States. Americans in the 1940-40-50s were fascinated with shoulder holsters, just look how often they appeared in the period movies.
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